Delta Adding New Routes from Seattle
#76
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Being a Seattle guy I like the idea of more flights, even if there is more competition for upgrades. For me it is more options to get to my clients faster and get back home easier and spend time with my kids.
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You're certainly free to do as you please but if I lived in SEA I think I would try and give my business to Alaska as much as possible. Alaska has been very good to Seattle. If Delta chases AS out of SEA we have no idea what DL will do after the fact. DL once had a nice big operation at my home airport (MCO) but they are now a shell of their former self. We now only have service to the hubs and RDU,BOS,LAX,BDL. Oh yeah, and those Saturday only flights that last for a few weeks for spring break.
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Hate those planes.
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More important, though is location. Pull out a map and look at where DTW is. Now look at where MSP is. Look to the West of MSP and what do you see? A great big ball of... nothing. Look to the North of MSP and what do you see? A great big ball of... nothing. DTW is simply better located to connect traffic within the Eastern half of the US. MSP is too far north and too far west to serve, on it's own, as a mid-Continent hub.
But I look east, and I see a great big ball of nothing, then Michigan, then Ontario and finally the NE.
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#82
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You're certainly free to do as you please but if I lived in SEA I think I would try and give my business to Alaska as much as possible. Alaska has been very good to Seattle. If Delta chases AS out of SEA we have no idea what DL will do after the fact. DL once had a nice big operation at my home airport (MCO) but they are now a shell of their former self. We now only have service to the hubs and RDU,BOS,LAX,BDL. Oh yeah, and those Saturday only flights that last for a few weeks for spring break.
MCO is a low-yield operation, big difference. SEA has Amazon, Microsoft, Boeing, and a heck lot of wealth.
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I have no clue where you get the idea that AS is "running scared". Conjecture in FlyerTalk doesn't make it so.
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And I know which airline can take me to where I want to go, has no change fees for Golds and above, and whose miles and status are actually worth something. Getting to LHR or AMS is no problem as an AS flyer; I'll take BA or KL with full EQM over DL any day of the week.
I have no clue where you get the idea that AS is "running scared". Conjecture in FlyerTalk doesn't make it so.
Dave
I have no clue where you get the idea that AS is "running scared". Conjecture in FlyerTalk doesn't make it so.
Dave
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Actually, my brother who usually lived in TPA before, but they don't live there anymore.
Actually, they will be at North terminal, but not at Delta terminal.
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Sure AS can look out for it's own, but apparently it came at the expense of a partner whether it is behind the scenes retaliation like now following the contract to it's letter terms, or code share costs. Or flirting too much with AA when it's obvious where the most revenue was coming from, we don't know what caused the commotion. All we know the situation as it is today is good for costumers for both DL and AS. Now whether their SLC expansion was planned or not, it is rather short-sighted. WN tried to take on big D there and that didn't work out.
I still stick my prediction that AS will never drop DL even at the end of their contract. It would be one arm cutting the other.
High and dry? More like sprawling cities when they are done.
SEA - Trans-pac and becoming a global hub
JFK - Global hub
LGA - Domestic hub
CVG - Right-sized
MEM is too close to ATL, and there was not enough O&D to sustain such a barbie jet operation. MCO is low-yield, every airline and it's mom serves it. It is still the 2nd largest there. DL kicking out Mesa, aka Freedom is the reason those non-stop barbie jets ended. DL still runs a big ops there so please don't act like MCO is a ghost town.
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High and dry? More like sprawling cities when they are done.
SEA - Trans-pac and becoming a global hub
JFK - Global hub
LGA - Domestic hub
CVG - Right-sized
MEM is too close to ATL, and there was not enough O&D to sustain such a barbie jet operation. MCO is low-yield, every airline and it's mom serves it. It is still the 2nd largest there. DL kicking out Mesa, aka Freedom is the reason those non-stop barbie jets ended. DL still runs a big ops there so please don't act like MCO is a ghost town.
SEA - Trans-pac and becoming a global hub
JFK - Global hub
LGA - Domestic hub
CVG - Right-sized
MEM is too close to ATL, and there was not enough O&D to sustain such a barbie jet operation. MCO is low-yield, every airline and it's mom serves it. It is still the 2nd largest there. DL kicking out Mesa, aka Freedom is the reason those non-stop barbie jets ended. DL still runs a big ops there so please don't act like MCO is a ghost town.
You are also forgetting about Delta Express and Song at MCO; the MCO network was far bigger than just the intra-FL Comair/Freedom flying.
Delta has also had a bipolar relationship with LAX. They will build it up only to bring it down and then turn around and increase flights again.
My point is that Alaska has a stable presence at SEA. Delta is unpredictable.
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