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The Weekly Flyer Feb 10, 2014 10:55 am

Delta Adding New Routes from Seattle
 
Delta Adding New Routes from Seattle to Palm Springs, Phoenix, Tucson, Jackson Hole

Delta's new Seattle service beginning Dec. 20, 2014 includes:

Five daily flights to Phoenix
One daily seasonal flight to Palm Springs, Calif.
Saturday seasonal service to Tucson, Ariz.
Saturday seasonal service to Jackson Hole, Wyo.
One additional nonstop flight to Honolulu for a total of two daily flights

Expanded seasonal service beginning in September includes:

One new daily nonstop flight to Anchorage, Alaska for a total of two daily flights in September and three daily flights during the summer

Another stab in the back to Alaska?

steveholt Feb 10, 2014 11:03 am

Is it weird that DL would announce this ten months in advance of most of the new service beginning?

jrkmsp Feb 10, 2014 11:03 am

PHX is no surprise, and the only big announcement here.

Another HNL flight is interesting, but not too surprising, especially as they switch flying from 763s to 753s as they start to retire the domestic 767s.

N830MH Feb 10, 2014 11:20 am

YAY!!! I just wanting to go to SEA to visit Boeing. Way to go, Delta!!

Kuds to Delta!!! ^^^

pbarnette Feb 10, 2014 11:25 am


Originally Posted by The Weekly Flyer (Post 22321949)
Another stab in the back to Alaska?

If AS doesn't like competition, they should exit the game.

The seasonal stuff is nothing, but the PHX flights fill an obvious hole in feeding their TPAC flights. HNL is nice enough, I guess.

Agree with steveholt that it seems kind of far in advance for an announcement.

Dieuwer Feb 10, 2014 11:28 am

Sounds fancy to add all those routes, but where does DL get the aircraft from? Old routes being axed? New aircraft on order to be delivered by December 19, 2014? Unpark aircraft from some desert?

Beckles Feb 10, 2014 11:42 am


Originally Posted by dieuwer2 (Post 22322185)
Sounds fancy to add all those routes, but where does DL get the aircraft from? Old routes being axed? New aircraft on order to be delivered by December 19, 2014? Unpark aircraft from some desert?

In the grand scheme of Delta's schedule of thousands of daily flights figuring out how to schedule eight more flights a day ten months out is a trivial manner for those who get paid to do such things ... many more flights will be dropped ... and added before these changes take place.

orr333 Feb 10, 2014 11:42 am

Seems to be more signs of the AS partnership disolving. Also smells like it is not a situation where DL will acquire AS since they are adding new routes vs. assuming routes.

Dieuwer Feb 10, 2014 11:47 am


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 22322275)
In the grand scheme of Delta's schedule of thousands of daily flights figuring out how to schedule eight more flights a day ten months out is a trivial manner for those who get paid to do such things ... many more flights will be dropped ... and added before these changes take place.

Not if your scheduling margin is <1%.

pleasantsn Feb 10, 2014 12:09 pm

This announcement will help SEA-based fliers deciding whether to stick with DL or switch to AS. Since AS offers many more direct flights out of SEA than DL, I've been tempted to jump ship many times. If DL is going to continue adding service in SEA then I am leaning towards staying the course. So far the DL-AS rivalry has meant a drop in fares and increased service so I'm definitely not complaining. Announcements like this remind SEA-based fliers that DL is serious about increasing their presence here.

The marketing campaign has also been vigorous. Both are frequently taking radio spots. They also competed for the Seahawks endorsement: DL is the official airline of Seahawks, while AS is endorsed by quarterback Russell Wilson. The rivalry continues...

SOBE ER DOC Feb 10, 2014 12:15 pm

Interesting but not surprising. I'll be curious to see if and when DL starts adding more trasncons to SEA from places like PHL, PIT, MCO, MIA and so forth. Personally I'd like to see ORD-SEA but I'm not holding my breath.

At what point does DL run out of gates for expansion in SEA?

MSPeconomist Feb 10, 2014 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by dieuwer2 (Post 22322185)
Sounds fancy to add all those routes, but where does DL get the aircraft from? Old routes being axed? New aircraft on order to be delivered by December 19, 2014? Unpark aircraft from some desert?

The Saturday flights can pull aircraft from routes flown with less frequency on Saturday. That part should be easy.

More generally, DL should be able to shift aircraft around a bit to utilize them more fully, including adjustments in other schedules if needed.

dgxoxo Feb 10, 2014 12:21 pm

How nice for Seattle. Would be great to get a NYC - PSP flight (Fri / Sat) during the winter...

MonThruThurs Feb 10, 2014 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC (Post 22322545)
At what point does DL run out of gates for expansion in SEA?

S seems to be maxed and DL is using A/B for overflow flights. DL can probably get the US gates after consolidation, but that could be a couple of years. UA could drop a gate or 2, but they've already undergone some consolidation.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw DL busing pax. to the cargo ramp by the end of the year.

technole Feb 10, 2014 1:30 pm

There is still room in A for DL's flights.

Great adds, especially PHX. Can finally tell US to shove it. DL might as well re-add NW's 753 to OGG again.

Still waiting for the short-hauls to GEG, BOI, and EUG. I guess they really don't want to make AS too mad with BOI after their preemptive strike of added frequency.

*cue the DL is making AS mad, going to run to AA sheep*


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