2014 SkyMiles Program Changes
Dec 16, 2013 | 2:03 pm
#751
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The whole concept behind FF programs is to give away something that costs nothing.
Perhaps Delta has plans to begin more aggressive monetization of the domestic BE routes out of JFK.
David
Dec 16, 2013 | 2:26 pm
#752
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Perhaps if this is the start of a trend toward reducing upgrades in general this could have a silver lining: If high revenue generating flyers are spending a lot of time in coach on the major airlines, especially on long routes like transcons, there might start to be some investment in the coach product. . . .
Dec 16, 2013 | 2:48 pm
#753
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The upgrade certs are great in theory, however in the past every time I tried to use them there was no availability, 3 years in a row they went to waste. Also living in NYC the fact that complimentary upgrades will no longer be offered on transcon flights is VERY disappointing
Will Delta rather leave the seats open then offer them to their loyal and elite customers - I mean they could still upgrade day of, if the seats were open, making everyone happy, IMO.
Will Delta rather leave the seats open then offer them to their loyal and elite customers - I mean they could still upgrade day of, if the seats were open, making everyone happy, IMO.
Dec 16, 2013 | 2:54 pm
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Oh, don't worry. They won't be left open, and certain people will be very happy. Please re-read the first few pages (I think) of this thread.
Last edited by davetravels; Dec 16, 2013 at 3:00 pm
Dec 16, 2013 | 3:01 pm
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The upgrade certs are great in theory, however in the past every time I tried to use them there was no availability, 3 years in a row they went to waste. Also living in NYC the fact that complimentary upgrades will no longer be offered on transcon flights is VERY disappointing Will Delta rather leave the seats open then offer them to their loyal and elite customers - I mean they could still upgrade day of, if the seats were open, making everyone happy, IMO.
Will Delta rather leave the seats open then offer them to their loyal and elite customers - I mean they could still upgrade day of, if the seats were open, making everyone happy, IMO.But like you, what will they do with those BE seats that don't sell and/or UPFare? Awkward....
Dec 16, 2013 | 3:09 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 3:13 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 3:19 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 3:30 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 3:34 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 3:37 pm
#762
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Tks for the clarification. If it was 8 GUs, it would be much more on par with UA and AA.
Dec 16, 2013 | 3:39 pm
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Dec 16, 2013 | 4:14 pm
#764
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Reciprocal Alaska Benefit change?
With the change, does that implicate change on upgrade policy for flight between Hawaii and West Coast for Alaska elite on DL and Delta elite on AS?
Regarding upgrades between SEA and JFK, AA & B6 provides non-stop between JFK and SEA. This move by DL is not competitive to AA's service as AA has no such restriction. UA and AS provides nonstop to EWR and also have "no upgrade" exclusion.
Jiburi
Regarding upgrades between SEA and JFK, AA & B6 provides non-stop between JFK and SEA. This move by DL is not competitive to AA's service as AA has no such restriction. UA and AS provides nonstop to EWR and also have "no upgrade" exclusion.
Jiburi
Last edited by jiburi; Dec 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Dec 16, 2013 | 4:57 pm
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Does AA fly with a flatbed or lie-flat product? I thought DL was the only carrier flying JFK-SEA or even NYC-SEA with a true premium product (ie not domestic First)