Deplane First Class First?
#46


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Happens often enough. I was in 1D two weeks ago, on a smaller craft than expected, with no closet, and the FA literally stopped incoming PAX for at least 4 minutes to let me stow my gear despite me trying to let people go by.
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#47
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I don't mind waiting when I am in Y (unless I am in a hurry to catch a connecting flight). I almost expect that the FAs would let FC passengers off first as they are flying premium.
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I was recently sitting in 20C on a 752 config in which that was the Exit Row with the door being used. I had all my luggage ready to go, and FA let me be the first off the plane, blocking the rest of Y behind me. Perhaps she wasn't following policy, but I would not have been amused waiting for all 26 F passengers to deplane.
On a side note, I usually take row 27 on 752, and it's far enough back that I can't see what's going on at the door, and deplaning procedure has never really bothered me before.
On a side note, I usually take row 27 on 752, and it's far enough back that I can't see what's going on at the door, and deplaning procedure has never really bothered me before.
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For international, another reason to let premium cabin passengers deplane first is that if priority checked bags come out first, it doesn't make sense for coach passengers to wait there versus having them wait earlier so that the premium cabin passengers can get through immigration and customs and especially get out of the way in the baggage hall. Less congestion in there is much more pleasant and efficient.
#52
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Not much of a hassel Boarding thru door 2L. The F/C or BE board and go left the
Zone 1 Priority pax go right - not much of a jam up here - then the rest of the zones
starting boarding and things start to slow down. Deplaning should not really be much
different. Just a simple matter of everyone getting in sync and queing to their zone
boarding announcement. And please re-consider boarding from the back of the cabin
to the front Zone 2?
What is irksome is BOARDING an aircraft with one jetway using door 1L. It is not
appreciated by the first/business class passengers/customers to have to be rushed to
store their carry on gear and get settled into their seat before the mad rush thru door
1L takes place. It is also nice to have the FA take your coat and offered you a preflight
refreshment and welcome you. Dual aisle wide body aircraft are not any better than
single aisle and definitely need to use door 2L.
Imagine loading a 747-8 or 380 using only one jetway and boarding everyone thru
the first/business class cabin - Aye the natives will be restless after that event !
The airline that does that has not only shot themselves in the foot and then put that
foot in their mouth and hopping around on the other foot making dumbfounded apologies.
Delays are inevitable with bad planning; attention to detail and poor passenger boarding
technics - read more correctly as passenger crowd control.
Zone 1 Priority pax go right - not much of a jam up here - then the rest of the zones
starting boarding and things start to slow down. Deplaning should not really be much
different. Just a simple matter of everyone getting in sync and queing to their zone
boarding announcement. And please re-consider boarding from the back of the cabin
to the front Zone 2?
What is irksome is BOARDING an aircraft with one jetway using door 1L. It is not
appreciated by the first/business class passengers/customers to have to be rushed to
store their carry on gear and get settled into their seat before the mad rush thru door
1L takes place. It is also nice to have the FA take your coat and offered you a preflight
refreshment and welcome you. Dual aisle wide body aircraft are not any better than
single aisle and definitely need to use door 2L.
Imagine loading a 747-8 or 380 using only one jetway and boarding everyone thru
the first/business class cabin - Aye the natives will be restless after that event !
The airline that does that has not only shot themselves in the foot and then put that
foot in their mouth and hopping around on the other foot making dumbfounded apologies.
Delays are inevitable with bad planning; attention to detail and poor passenger boarding
technics - read more correctly as passenger crowd control.
#53
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LOL
I mainly fly first...It works nicely, as I don't travel very often, have a severe "sign up bonus" addiction, and a nice monthly spend, so points are easy to come by.
But, even being a "FC snob", I realize that you could deplane nearly 1/2 of coach before the last FC straggler makes it off the plane.
I can see the point with international being different, though.
But, for domestic, I can understand they want to cater to high-fare-paying FC passengers...but to do this you're letting the exit door sit there wide open, while you roadblock 100+ passengers form getting off the plane.
I agree that every single available benefit should be given to FC passengers...but to inconvenience the coach passengers for basically no reason is taking it a bit far, and, really, borderline demented, imo...
I mainly fly first...It works nicely, as I don't travel very often, have a severe "sign up bonus" addiction, and a nice monthly spend, so points are easy to come by.

But, even being a "FC snob", I realize that you could deplane nearly 1/2 of coach before the last FC straggler makes it off the plane.
I can see the point with international being different, though.
But, for domestic, I can understand they want to cater to high-fare-paying FC passengers...but to do this you're letting the exit door sit there wide open, while you roadblock 100+ passengers form getting off the plane.
I agree that every single available benefit should be given to FC passengers...but to inconvenience the coach passengers for basically no reason is taking it a bit far, and, really, borderline demented, imo...
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I definitely saw it a lot on PMNW, where I was a plat and wound up in exit aisle seats right by 2L on 757s an awful lot of the time. I'd get up, stand in the aisle to get my bag, then wait for the FA to either deplane the F pax who were ready, or tell me to go ahead.
I don't know whether anyone else on those flights knew the plan, but no one ever tried to forcibly remove me (6' and 220 pounds at the time) and my bag from the aisle before the FA was ready...
I don't know whether anyone else on those flights knew the plan, but no one ever tried to forcibly remove me (6' and 220 pounds at the time) and my bag from the aisle before the FA was ready...
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It happens (essentially) all the time on flights into AMS, particularly on the A300's. I try to get seat 10B at the door and can get out right away because 10A/B are in the path to the door. I have to admit that it is frustrating to be in the back while the FA's wait for the last straggler from BC to fiddle with their bags.
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Not much of a hassel Boarding thru door 2L. The F/C or BE board and go left the
Zone 1 Priority pax go right - not much of a jam up here - then the rest of the zones
starting boarding and things start to slow down. Deplaning should not really be much
different. Just a simple matter of everyone getting in sync and queing to their zone
boarding announcement. And please re-consider boarding from the back of the cabin
to the front Zone 2?
What is irksome is BOARDING an aircraft with one jetway using door 1L. It is not
appreciated by the first/business class passengers/customers to have to be rushed to
store their carry on gear and get settled into their seat before the mad rush thru door
1L takes place. It is also nice to have the FA take your coat and offered you a preflight
refreshment and welcome you. Dual aisle wide body aircraft are not any better than
single aisle and definitely need to use door 2L.
Imagine loading a 747-8 or 380 using only one jetway and boarding everyone thru
the first/business class cabin - Aye the natives will be restless after that event !
The airline that does that has not only shot themselves in the foot and then put that
foot in their mouth and hopping around on the other foot making dumbfounded apologies.
Delays are inevitable with bad planning; attention to detail and poor passenger boarding
technics - read more correctly as passenger crowd control.
Zone 1 Priority pax go right - not much of a jam up here - then the rest of the zones
starting boarding and things start to slow down. Deplaning should not really be much
different. Just a simple matter of everyone getting in sync and queing to their zone
boarding announcement. And please re-consider boarding from the back of the cabin
to the front Zone 2?
What is irksome is BOARDING an aircraft with one jetway using door 1L. It is not
appreciated by the first/business class passengers/customers to have to be rushed to
store their carry on gear and get settled into their seat before the mad rush thru door
1L takes place. It is also nice to have the FA take your coat and offered you a preflight
refreshment and welcome you. Dual aisle wide body aircraft are not any better than
single aisle and definitely need to use door 2L.
Imagine loading a 747-8 or 380 using only one jetway and boarding everyone thru
the first/business class cabin - Aye the natives will be restless after that event !
The airline that does that has not only shot themselves in the foot and then put that
foot in their mouth and hopping around on the other foot making dumbfounded apologies.
Delays are inevitable with bad planning; attention to detail and poor passenger boarding
technics - read more correctly as passenger crowd control.
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Ohhhhhh, you are THAT guy..... .
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First I noticed this was while deplaning off the upper deck of a KLM 747. The FA's had blocked the aisle to let WBC off first.
On DL, have always noticed when it happens rather than when not. I think most often in my experience, they hold Y till BE is all off. Its a good perk, considering it saves a ton of time at immigration. A big benefit at BOM particularly, in my experience.
On DL, have always noticed when it happens rather than when not. I think most often in my experience, they hold Y till BE is all off. Its a good perk, considering it saves a ton of time at immigration. A big benefit at BOM particularly, in my experience.
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First I noticed this was while deplaning off the upper deck of a KLM 747. The FA's had blocked the aisle to let WBC off first.
On DL, have always noticed when it happens rather than when not. I think most often in my experience, they hold Y till BE is all off. Its a good perk, considering it saves a ton of time at immigration. A big benefit at BOM particularly, in my experience.
On DL, have always noticed when it happens rather than when not. I think most often in my experience, they hold Y till BE is all off. Its a good perk, considering it saves a ton of time at immigration. A big benefit at BOM particularly, in my experience.
#60

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The old T4 gates have the ability to board using both, it's a safe bet that the new gates would include the double jetways as well.

