Sky Club beverage changes confirmed by DL
Jun 8, 2013, 6:27 am
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I am just gonna throw this out there....
Fahey recalled when he found out the hard way that English gin is different from its American cousin. Ordering a martini while on a London trip to meet with Gordon's British executives, he found the drink was so highly flavored that he could barely swallow it. His bemused hosts were waiting for just such a reaction. The English always dilute their more concentrated gin. Only Americans drink martinis, said Fahey, explaining that U.S. gin manufacturers "lighten up on the botanicals" as a result.
But regardless of the fact that American gin is subtly different from its English ancestor, stillmaster Gramm is proud of the tradition that he and his fellow stillmen uphold.
"I feel there's an artistic nature about what we do. I don't think there are a whole lot of people working for a company that can say they're making a product that's been around for 200 years."
Fahey recalled when he found out the hard way that English gin is different from its American cousin. Ordering a martini while on a London trip to meet with Gordon's British executives, he found the drink was so highly flavored that he could barely swallow it. His bemused hosts were waiting for just such a reaction. The English always dilute their more concentrated gin. Only Americans drink martinis, said Fahey, explaining that U.S. gin manufacturers "lighten up on the botanicals" as a result.
But regardless of the fact that American gin is subtly different from its English ancestor, stillmaster Gramm is proud of the tradition that he and his fellow stillmen uphold.
"I feel there's an artistic nature about what we do. I don't think there are a whole lot of people working for a company that can say they're making a product that's been around for 200 years."
Jun 8, 2013, 7:26 am
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By making the recent changes to the available SC selections, DL has opened the door for those of us with opinions on the matter to debate the merits of DLs decision. It appears the vast majority of those on this thread view that decision negatively. The reasons for that are not relevant to the collective perceived loss in value of the SC brand.
All the insults, and argumentum ad hominem attacks aside, you have your opinion with regards to this matter, and I respect your right to disagree with the majority. In fact, absent said attacks, I very much respect your willingness to present the opposing viewpoint in the face of so many opinions to the contrary.
DL has now made their decision, and upset many flyers in the process. The reasons for that upset may seem nonsensical to you. However, as I stated above, those reasons are subjective, and entirely legitimate to those who hold them.
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Jun 8, 2013, 7:34 am
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Jun 8, 2013, 7:42 am
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Hmmmm?
Jun 8, 2013, 7:47 am
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Yes, we have allowed the focus of this thread to be taken away from our experiences in the club by someone else's experience in pontificating.
Jun 8, 2013, 7:50 am
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Jun 8, 2013, 7:54 am
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As a matter of fact I do. I'm four for four in doing SDC's and being upgraded everytime.
But in this case I'm on the last flight of the night home so no chance to do the SDC. Interesting how those who will not step up to plate continue to try to divert the attention away from themselves. Why is that?
But in this case I'm on the last flight of the night home so no chance to do the SDC. Interesting how those who will not step up to plate continue to try to divert the attention away from themselves. Why is that?
Jun 8, 2013, 7:56 am
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Jun 8, 2013, 8:18 am
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Well said.
What you apparently fail to grasp is that all of the opinions expressed here are just that; highly subjective opinions. They are however, to those that hold them, completely valid.
By making the recent changes to the available SC selections, DL has opened the door for those of us with opinions on the matter to debate the merits of DLs decision. It appears the vast majority of those on this thread view that decision negatively. The reasons for that are not relevant to the collective perceived loss in value of the SC brand.
All the insults, and argumentum ad hominem attacks aside, you have your opinion with regards to this matter, and I respect your right to disagree with the majority. If fact, absent said attacks, I very much respect your willingness to present the opposing viewpoint in the face of so many opinions to the contrary.
DL has now made their decision, and upset many flyers in the process. The reasons for that upset may seem nonsensical to you. However, as I stated above, those reasons are subjective, and entirely legitimate to those who hold them.
What you apparently fail to grasp is that all of the opinions expressed here are just that; highly subjective opinions. They are however, to those that hold them, completely valid.
By making the recent changes to the available SC selections, DL has opened the door for those of us with opinions on the matter to debate the merits of DLs decision. It appears the vast majority of those on this thread view that decision negatively. The reasons for that are not relevant to the collective perceived loss in value of the SC brand.
All the insults, and argumentum ad hominem attacks aside, you have your opinion with regards to this matter, and I respect your right to disagree with the majority. If fact, absent said attacks, I very much respect your willingness to present the opposing viewpoint in the face of so many opinions to the contrary.
DL has now made their decision, and upset many flyers in the process. The reasons for that upset may seem nonsensical to you. However, as I stated above, those reasons are subjective, and entirely legitimate to those who hold them.
That DL management came here urging folks to renew their memberships at an increased cost, even while planning to devalue the SKY Club product, is also clear cut.
Perhaps decisions about business ethics also require subjective judgements. But, I believe that many here have made a firm, and correct, judgement about the ethics of this situation.
Can we get away from dissembling diatribes intended to divert attention from the real issues here?
Stop feeding the DDL members.
Jun 8, 2013, 8:26 am
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As a matter of fact I do. I'm four for four in doing SDC's and being upgraded everytime.
But in this case I'm on the last flight of the night home so no chance to do the SDC. Interesting how those who will not step up to plate continue to try to divert the attention away from themselves. Why is that?
But in this case I'm on the last flight of the night home so no chance to do the SDC. Interesting how those who will not step up to plate continue to try to divert the attention away from themselves. Why is that?
Jun 8, 2013, 8:41 am
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Was in NRT on Wednesday. The beer machines remain, along with American swill available. The liquor has gone to the new standard SC selection with one exceptionJW Red in place of Scoresby's. Well, I shouldn't say I'm 100% sure that Scoresby's wasn't there, but there definitely was JW Red sitting out on the self-serve bar.
Jun 8, 2013, 8:47 am
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Was in NRT on Wednesday. The beer machines remain, along with American swill available. The liquor has gone to the new standard SC selection with one exceptionJW Red in place of Scoresby's. Well, I shouldn't say I'm 100% sure that Scoresby's wasn't there, but there definitely was JW Red sitting out on the self-serve bar.
Jun 8, 2013, 8:48 am
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Only because you prevailed in the end. So, in recognition of that:
Well played, sir!
When did you know you had him hooked?
However, you should have saved others the Google search:
How Gordon's gin is made in Plainfield, IL
Very interesting article. Particularly the part about how the flavor of the gin is also customized for Canada.
Well played, sir!
When did you know you had him hooked?
However, you should have saved others the Google search:
How Gordon's gin is made in Plainfield, IL
Very interesting article. Particularly the part about how the flavor of the gin is also customized for Canada.