The Official Delta 747-400 Interior Mod Tracking Thread
Dec 19, 2011, 8:34 pm
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I always wondered why they didnt go with a 1-1-1 config upstairs. There's certainly enough room.
Still, this will give Delta the best 747 upper deck business class seat out of all the airlines flying 747's.
Dec 21, 2011, 9:16 am
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Will the 744 BE seats be similar to those on the 777LR? If so, CX uses a very similar seat upstairs on the 744 in a 1-1 configuration and there def isn't room for 1-1-1.
Dec 21, 2011, 9:19 am
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I believe they are similar to the 77L but the head is into the aisle vs into the wall - reverse herringbone or something to that effect...
Dec 21, 2011, 9:41 am
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Dec 21, 2011, 10:57 am
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My NRT-ATL for Memorial Day 2012 has definitely gone to the new configuration. I can't figure out which seat to book for myself. I really like the extra space/shoulder room of 7A on the 77L. What is comparable on the modified 744? The last row of each cabin?
While I generally like the upper deck (except the tiny overheads--any word on changes there?) right now I've picked 6A. I might pick the last row in front of the exit door on the UD if that will have some extra space.
FWIW, my LAX-NRT over Fourth of July has gone 77L. Seems like a waste of the LR; I assume it must be for a/c positioning reasons-- in from SYD, out to NRT?
While I generally like the upper deck (except the tiny overheads--any word on changes there?) right now I've picked 6A. I might pick the last row in front of the exit door on the UD if that will have some extra space.
FWIW, my LAX-NRT over Fourth of July has gone 77L. Seems like a waste of the LR; I assume it must be for a/c positioning reasons-- in from SYD, out to NRT?
Any idea when this will be compete? Thinking of taking a trip currently served by the 747s, yet have until mid-'13 to fly it. If they'll be complete by end of '12, then cool.
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Dec 21, 2011, 11:18 am
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Pretty excited about the lie flat mods coming online to the 747, except for one little (possibly major) issue... the drastic reduction in J seat quantity will likely mean higher prices and even worse Z availability for those trying to use an SWU.
Dec 21, 2011, 11:24 am
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Looking at the new 747-400 seat maps for this spring, I only count 46 J seats. I thought there were supposed to be 48 seats. The nose only shows seats along the windows, and I would expect there to be at least 1 row of middle seats in this section. I wonder if these didn't fit or if there's just a bug with the seat map?
Dec 21, 2011, 11:30 am
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Haha! Might be a little out of range - even for the LR.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=MCO-BKK
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=MCO-BKK
The LR can make it with hundreds of miles to spare. (No ETOPS issues on this route).
Jan 2, 2012, 8:57 am
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I just used two swu's for ATL - BKK with the new lie-flat 180 config 747 on the ATL-NRT segment. Lots of Z out there, in fact for the date I'm traveling, its Z9. I just hope that Delta gets the requisite # of 747's back to fly ATL - NRT. Date of travel is April 5. The first 747 on ATL - NRT is scheduled for March 23...The way back, there was no Z. Z was through MSP or DTW only.
Anyway, I'm cautiously excited for ATL - NRT. I'm upstairs with the 1 - 1 config. The emergency row, 77, was already taken but I don't really think that matters with the lie-flats.
Jan 8, 2012, 9:45 pm
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rylan,
I just used two swu's for ATL - BKK with the new lie-flat 180 config 747 on the ATL-NRT segment. Lots of Z out there, in fact for the date I'm traveling, its Z9. I just hope that Delta gets the requisite # of 747's back to fly ATL - NRT. Date of travel is April 5. The first 747 on ATL - NRT is scheduled for March 23...The way back, there was no Z. Z was through MSP or DTW only.
Anyway, I'm cautiously excited for ATL - NRT. I'm upstairs with the 1 - 1 config. The emergency row, 77, was already taken but I don't really think that matters with the lie-flats.
I just used two swu's for ATL - BKK with the new lie-flat 180 config 747 on the ATL-NRT segment. Lots of Z out there, in fact for the date I'm traveling, its Z9. I just hope that Delta gets the requisite # of 747's back to fly ATL - NRT. Date of travel is April 5. The first 747 on ATL - NRT is scheduled for March 23...The way back, there was no Z. Z was through MSP or DTW only.
Anyway, I'm cautiously excited for ATL - NRT. I'm upstairs with the 1 - 1 config. The emergency row, 77, was already taken but I don't really think that matters with the lie-flats.
Jan 9, 2012, 2:25 am
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My NRT-ATL for Memorial Day 2012 has definitely gone to the new configuration. I can't figure out which seat to book for myself. I really like the extra space/shoulder room of 7A on the 77L. What is comparable on the modified 744? The last row of each cabin?
While I generally like the upper deck (except the tiny overheads--any word on changes there?) right now I've picked 6A. I might pick the last row in front of the exit door on the UD if that will have some extra space.
FWIW, my LAX-NRT over Fourth of July has gone 77L. Seems like a waste of the LR; I assume it must be for a/c positioning reasons-- in from SYD, out to NRT?
While I generally like the upper deck (except the tiny overheads--any word on changes there?) right now I've picked 6A. I might pick the last row in front of the exit door on the UD if that will have some extra space.
FWIW, my LAX-NRT over Fourth of July has gone 77L. Seems like a waste of the LR; I assume it must be for a/c positioning reasons-- in from SYD, out to NRT?
Only routes that *need* it (ie would take a cargo hit) are ATL-DXB/JNB, DTW-HKG and LAX-SYD. The ERs can do DTW-PEK/PVG/ICN easy.
Don't look for new long haul routes out of Delta for S12, Anderson is to scared of wall street. (same reason why the domestic hard product is so terrible.)
*note, If LAX-MEL happens i don't call it new because it would be a take over from Virgin.*
Jan 9, 2012, 3:07 am
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It is well within Boeing's promotional range figure of 9300-ish NM, however, in actuality this route is on the edge of the aircraft's capabilities and would not be economically viable. You must realize that Boeing gets this nominal figure from what they think would be typical usage (no airline would break even using Boeing's marketing figures.) Looking at the payload/range chart, the airplane would make it, but it would have to leave a lot of revenue-generating payload behind.
Jan 9, 2012, 3:15 am
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Jan 9, 2012, 5:31 am
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Did you find the ticket more expensive than normal? I have been looking to book a flight using two swu's from XXX-BKK, GUM, or NRT, and noticed flights in M more than $1K what I paid last year. Part of it looks like an increase in taxes (almost $500 now), while some is in the base. Any thoughts?
As it turns out, the 744 I was booked on from ATL - NRT for April 4 has now switched back to the 77L. The start up date for the 744 on that segment has been pushed back. Must be teething problems with the 744 mods.