2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#2101
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 3
Advice: CC churn strategy for hotels in France and Italy
I need advice on which credit cards to apply to help minimize the hotel costs for our trip to France and Italy next May.
I have somewhat mapped out what I would need but need more input. We're going for 16 days. Below is the somewhat planned scheduled with hotel points to use
4/30 9:30 am - Arrive at Heathrow. Hotel: out of pocket stay at Park Inn?
5/1 6:30 am - flight to Paris (Plan to use Carlson points at Radisson Blu, 2 nights with 1 free night)
5/2 : Paris
5/3 : Paris
5/4 : Flight to Nice: No hotel plan yet
5/5 : Nice: No hotel plan yet
5/6 : Train to Pisa then FLorence. B&B in Florence
5/7 : Florence B&B in Florence
5/8 : Train to Milan Hotel: ??
5/9 : Day trip to Lake Como Hotel: ??
5/10: Train to Venice - Planned to buy Choice Privileges points to stay at Comfort Diana
5/11 Venice - late night train to Rome
5/11 Rome - Hotel: ?? Radisson by the Termini?
5/12 Rome - Hotel : Intercontinental
5/13 Rome - Hotel : Intercontinental
5/14 - Fly home
Planned for credit cards application:
Myself: Club Carlson (cover nights in Paris)
IHG (cover 2 nights in Rome)
Hubby: I need help to plan for his. Ideally i would prefer both of us to apply for 4 credit cards total.
Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advance.
I have somewhat mapped out what I would need but need more input. We're going for 16 days. Below is the somewhat planned scheduled with hotel points to use
4/30 9:30 am - Arrive at Heathrow. Hotel: out of pocket stay at Park Inn?
5/1 6:30 am - flight to Paris (Plan to use Carlson points at Radisson Blu, 2 nights with 1 free night)
5/2 : Paris
5/3 : Paris
5/4 : Flight to Nice: No hotel plan yet
5/5 : Nice: No hotel plan yet
5/6 : Train to Pisa then FLorence. B&B in Florence
5/7 : Florence B&B in Florence
5/8 : Train to Milan Hotel: ??
5/9 : Day trip to Lake Como Hotel: ??
5/10: Train to Venice - Planned to buy Choice Privileges points to stay at Comfort Diana
5/11 Venice - late night train to Rome
5/11 Rome - Hotel: ?? Radisson by the Termini?
5/12 Rome - Hotel : Intercontinental
5/13 Rome - Hotel : Intercontinental
5/14 - Fly home
Planned for credit cards application:
Myself: Club Carlson (cover nights in Paris)
IHG (cover 2 nights in Rome)
Hubby: I need help to plan for his. Ideally i would prefer both of us to apply for 4 credit cards total.
Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advance.
#2102
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
Apps done the same day MAY not show up as new accounts or credit pulls yet, increasing the chance of auto approval.
Multiple apps done the same day with the same bank MAY be merged into a single credit pull.
Manufactured spending can make signup requirements a simple matter of a stop at the drugstore for each $5000 needed.
If you apply for 6 or 8 cards in a year, AOR vs one at a time will likely make no difference. For 15-20 or more per year, AORs could yield better results. Many including me are unconvinced that it really matters. I jump when there is a good deal.
#2103
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 349
It has been asked and debated in this thread. The most common reasons to AOR are:
Apps done the same day MAY not show up as new accounts or credit pulls yet, increasing the chance of auto approval.
Multiple apps done the same day with the same bank MAY be merged into a single credit pull.
Manufactured spending can make signup requirements a simple matter of a stop at the drugstore for each $5000 needed.
If you apply for 6 or 8 cards in a year, AOR vs one at a time will likely make no difference. For 15-20 or more per year, AORs could yield better results. Many including me are unconvinced that it really matters. I jump when there is a good deal.
Apps done the same day MAY not show up as new accounts or credit pulls yet, increasing the chance of auto approval.
Multiple apps done the same day with the same bank MAY be merged into a single credit pull.
Manufactured spending can make signup requirements a simple matter of a stop at the drugstore for each $5000 needed.
If you apply for 6 or 8 cards in a year, AOR vs one at a time will likely make no difference. For 15-20 or more per year, AORs could yield better results. Many including me are unconvinced that it really matters. I jump when there is a good deal.
#2104
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: HH Gold-IHG Plat
Posts: 390
http://www.eurostar.com/uk-en/eurost...s#.UqohYSfWt30
1) also not exactly the best first post.
2) do more work report back. i.e look at what areas have what types of hotels and what the point values are and then that will narrow down the idea of applying for Hotel Cards.
Last edited by ac921ol; Dec 12, 2013 at 1:55 pm
#2105
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 179
Really... are there any benefits to wait 3-6 months. Currently i need 9.25k min spend to get all the bonuses. I am having a bit of a hard time
3k Amazon Payments
1k/month reg spend = 6k
Local CVSs dont sell vanilla reload network cards. No access to walmart.
3k Amazon Payments
1k/month reg spend = 6k
Local CVSs dont sell vanilla reload network cards. No access to walmart.
#2106
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 64
Today's AOR/score 780+ ~
Club Carlson - instant approval
Alaska Airlines - pending, approved after call
Barclays Arrival - pending, approved after call
Citi AA Bus - pending, 7-10 bus days
Amex Surpass - instant approval
Data point: definitely freeze IDA, ARS before club carlson.
Club Carlson - instant approval
Alaska Airlines - pending, approved after call
Barclays Arrival - pending, approved after call
Citi AA Bus - pending, 7-10 bus days
Amex Surpass - instant approval
Data point: definitely freeze IDA, ARS before club carlson.
#2107
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 64
I wouldn't, If I was you. Do what you are comfortable with and be responsible, its your credit.
#2108
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
Yes, by all means wait until you have met your spending and at very least 3 months. 6 would be better with your extremely thin credit file. Welcome to FlyerTalk! This is not a sarcasm-free zone.
#2109
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
You're going to be very lucky to find availability if you're only starting right now for April.
#2110
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,453
Because if EVERY noobie was spoon feed the answer then how would you learn? Reading those 137 pages will answer other questions you will have and you might, JUST learn something....
#2111
Having been only denied one credit card in my life (Barclay US, #4), here are the results of my least successful AOR yet, as of yesterday afternoon.
Cards opened in 2013, app rounds were on the last day of May and Sept:
Barclays US Air #3 (#1 closed) - instant approval
CSP - instant approval
IHG - instant approval
Ink Bold Charge - pending, recon, approval
Amex PRG Biz - instant approval
Amex Blue - instant approval
Citi AA personal - instant approval
Citi Diamond Preferred - instant approval
Barclays US Air #4 - pending, denied
AMEX FR happened sometime in late Oct or early Nov.
AOR, in order of application
BoA's AS (50K, via forum link) - instant approval
Citi Hilton HHonors #3 (50K, via forum link) - pending, did not call
Ink Bold Classic (50K, via Chase website) - pending, called recon, denied for too many new lines/inquiries
Amex SPG (25K, via SPG account link) - instant approval
Club Carlson (85K, via CC website) - pending
UA MP Explorer (50K, via UA account link) - instant approval
I could feel the Chase recon agent looking at me weird through the phone when I said that I worked in credit risk management. Also, I applied for the UA MPE card maybe an hour or two after my Chase call, and was instantly approved for $2,000, with my other cards all being $10,000+. Is it safe to assume that this will be my last Chase card without having to relocate my other Chase credit in the future?
Cards opened in 2013, app rounds were on the last day of May and Sept:
Barclays US Air #3 (#1 closed) - instant approval
CSP - instant approval
IHG - instant approval
Ink Bold Charge - pending, recon, approval
Amex PRG Biz - instant approval
Amex Blue - instant approval
Citi AA personal - instant approval
Citi Diamond Preferred - instant approval
Barclays US Air #4 - pending, denied
AMEX FR happened sometime in late Oct or early Nov.
AOR, in order of application
BoA's AS (50K, via forum link) - instant approval
Citi Hilton HHonors #3 (50K, via forum link) - pending, did not call
Ink Bold Classic (50K, via Chase website) - pending, called recon, denied for too many new lines/inquiries
Amex SPG (25K, via SPG account link) - instant approval
Club Carlson (85K, via CC website) - pending
UA MP Explorer (50K, via UA account link) - instant approval
I could feel the Chase recon agent looking at me weird through the phone when I said that I worked in credit risk management. Also, I applied for the UA MPE card maybe an hour or two after my Chase call, and was instantly approved for $2,000, with my other cards all being $10,000+. Is it safe to assume that this will be my last Chase card without having to relocate my other Chase credit in the future?
Last edited by TOMFORD; Dec 13, 2013 at 5:45 am
#2113
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
FlightNurse actually knows their stuff, and your question is very basic, and is covered in almost every thread by a new member who asks the same thing.
If you don't want to dig through 137 pages, maybe a blog would be more your speed, and they love to spoon-feed answers, since they get paid commissions for your apps unlike those on FT who do their own research.
If you don't want to dig through 137 pages, maybe a blog would be more your speed, and they love to spoon-feed answers, since they get paid commissions for your apps unlike those on FT who do their own research.
#2114
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,455
Ok, everyone has had his/her say on the topic of answers vs. research. Let's let it drop there.
#2115
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 448
Possibly bank specific/YMMV situation. But thanks for the glimmer of hope