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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 9:44 am
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Any updates on term A at IAH? Will UA and US move over to join AC so they have a "past security" link to the other terminals via bus (and eventually train) and the P Club.

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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by cova
Probably not a lot of reason for the airlines to move around. Really no connecting traffic through DCA (other than maybe a little on US) - so likely not an issue to keep separated.
Small point of order on this: even if connecting traffic isn't all that much, wouldn't alliance members want to be near each other no matter what just for support and IRROPS and such?

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Any updates on term A at IAH? Will UA and US move over to join AC so they have a "past security" link to the other terminals via bus (and eventually train) and the P Club.
No updates...maybe Scott will come say hi once some details start leaking out and award prizes to the most accurate speculator.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by cova
Really no connecting traffic through DCA (other than maybe a little on US) - so likely not an issue to keep separated.
Remember this CO-UA deal is more than just an alliance partner. We will likely see CO and UA wanting to share gates, baggage ops, ticket counters, clubs, etc. if possible.

Think merger without a merger.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by photog72
At IAH will UA move from Terminal A to C or E? Probably not. But, there has to be better than A. A is so
At IAH I expect UA and US to move back to A North (where they used to be) and DL/NW to go back to A South. I don't expect anyone to move to B, C, or E. It would make sense to have all the Star Alliance partners in A North, where there is easier connection to CO's flights via the current bus, and the future TerminaLink extension once it opens. That's also where the A PC is, and it won't be getting nearly the patronage it does now after DL and NW are no longer CO's partners.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ConciergeMike
One of the other options we were talking about then also had something to do with FL moving to E, and IIRC something like OW having T and part of A () with Star in B/C and ST in D/E. I probably got some detail of that wrong, and as I look at it I know what I just wrote probably wouldn't work...we need ssullivan to not be so busy with work, because he was the one coming up with the theories, along with colpuck I think.
Haha. Yes, I've not been around much lately. Life is too crazy these days.

Anyway, I don't expect CO to move at ATL. There's simply not enough room in T North for CO, and I can't imagine AA trading gates with CO, given AA's prime setup now with their check-in, security, gates, and baggage claim all right together. CO currently uses four or five gates at ATL, and needs them. At times if CO has delays, they'll pick up another one of the shared gates at D. Given the lack of gates in T North, where UA currently is, and the lack of club room space to replace the current PC (which was just renovated), I don't think it's really possible for CO to move to be close to UA. Maybe another trade could happen that puts UA closer to CO (DL gives up some of NW's D gates), but I certainly don't see CO moving at ATL out of D.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 3:43 pm
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I'm surprised there's no commentary on the BOS situation here.

Terminal A got rebuilt a few years ago. It's big, and was originally the domain of Delta -- with half the checkin area empty. Then CO moved over to join their SkyTeam brother a year or so ago. CO left Terminal C to do this, home of United (though down a different concourse with separate security).

Then just this month, NW left Terminal E (the int'l terminal) to move to join the SkyTeam gang in Terminal A. So for now, Terminal A is all SkyTeam, all the time.

So now CO is joining *A. Will they move back to Terminal C? But given that I think B6 expanded in that area, there may not be room.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by hobo13
So now CO is joining *A. Will they move back to Terminal C? But given that I think B6 expanded in that area, there may not be room.
The B6 situation is precisely why CO moved in the first place. Massport had to beg CO to move - I believe they offered them a sweetheart deal to do so. I think UA may have some extra space in C, but my guess is that there simply isn't enough room in C for CO to move back to. Were I a CO flier out of BOS, I wouldn't particularly want them to move either, as Terminal A is easily the nicest terminal at the airport and Terminal C might very well be the worst.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 7:34 pm
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What about in CLE? I would assume that NW will finally leave C and then CO will have the entire C to itself, or is there a possibility that UA moves into the NW gates?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by CLEtraveller23
What about in CLE? I would assume that NW will finally leave C and then CO will have the entire C to itself, or is there a possibility that UA moves into the NW gates?
Do UA and NW use a similar amount of space? (I've only been in C and D at CLE.) If it were me, I'd move US to B from A, and put the consolidated DL/NW in A. Being that CLE is a hub for CO, the matter of connections will matter more than before when we were talking about aligning DCA.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by kss5555
As for ORD, I have been told by the Presidents Club and the World Club Agents that Delta is moving to the Northwest gate area and the WorldClub/Presidents Club will become an excluse Delta SkyClub this summer or fall.
This was reported in the Chicago papers in February. CO might move into Terminal 1, "at the south end" of the B concourse -- the low-numbered ones.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 7:41 am
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Yes, it has been confirmed for a while that CO has gotten Gates B1 thru B4 from June.

I guess DL will immediately after move to the current CO gates and the DL CR closed in T3 at the same time as CO moves out from the current NWA/CO lounge. The walk from the PC to gates B1-4 is about 5 minutes, so not that far.

There's no room for the DL flyers in the current club if CO continues to give access to the club and not give access to the RCC for now. It's overflowing with Amex Plat Trash already..
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by tommy777
Yes, it has been confirmed for a while that CO has gotten Gates B1 thru B4 from June.

I guess DL will immediately after move to the current CO gates and the DL CR closed in T3 at the same time as CO moves out from the current NWA/CO lounge. The walk from the PC to gates B1-4 is about 5 minutes, so not that far.

There's no room for the DL flyers in the current club if CO continues to give access to the club and not give access to the RCC for now. It's overflowing with Amex Plat Trash already..
I resemble that "trash" remark.

The real question is whether that is really a PC or just a WC that also has PC employees in it. It is operated as the latter, not the former. Right now there is no PC/RCC reciprocity in locations where there is also a CRC/WC in the same security area. Moving to RCC reciprocity at ORD would mark a shift in that.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
I resemble that "trash" remark.

The real question is whether that is really a PC or just a WC that also has PC employees in it. It is operated as the latter, not the former. Right now there is no PC/RCC reciprocity in locations where there is also a CRC/WC in the same security area. Moving to RCC reciprocity at ORD would mark a shift in that.
I guess we just have to sit back and see what UA and CO are cooking up on the RCC/PC cooperation. I for one am glad that my PC membership is up for renewal in October so I have time to decide if I should renew it or not.

But it's definite that CO will be located at B1-B4 from June, very close to the B6 RCC..
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by paytonc
This was reported in the Chicago papers in February. CO might move into Terminal 1, "at the south end" of the B concourse -- the low-numbered ones.
IMHO That is a better spot than they currently have in Terminal 2....putting aside considerations of the PC.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by Renard
IMHO That is a better spot than they currently have in Terminal 2....putting aside considerations of the PC.
Indeed, it's prime space: right outside the exits to the two quickest security lines (the elite line and checkpoint 3, i.e., the one all the way to the left). Plus, it has some of the better food in the airport (Tapenade); for Chicago specialties, Vosges Haut-Chocolat is right there and the Goose Island kiosk in T2 is just down the hall.
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