So if E has to stay mixed, that leaves all of T and A thru D. I can see DL making *A and OW go further downline on the Ride of Death (the monorail programmers were doing shrooms...500 feet of full throttle followed by 500 feet of brakes......) and taking T, A, and B for itself.

DL needs the high-density ASA/Comair gates, too, for those operations, and those are out in D. DL already has all of A & B so that is no big deal, and they don't really need the T gates. I guess they could try to swap UA with NW's gates or something like that, but I don't know that it matters too much.

Plus, FL likely doesn't want to move. I actually don't expect too much to change air-side at ATL anytime soon.

Honestly, I've found more surly agents on CO then I have on UA over the years. I still remember the time I got scolded by a gate agent in IAH for sliding my boarding pass under the barcode scanner. Apparently, I wasn't supposed to do that.

Each airline has it's good apples and it's bad ones, but over the years, I've seen the UA agents go out of their way far more than CO ones.

Now, if you start talking about PC vs RCC staff, that's a whole different story. CO does have the upper hand there.

My personal hope is that there is no consolidation in SAN and if there is, UA moves to T2. T1 is a dump though UA has most of the pier there and a RCC there.

What about the CLE gates? I would assume that NW would move over with DL in B Concourse, giving CO the entire C, right? Or is it possible that UA moves into C taking over the old NW gates because originally when the new FIS was going to be built, wasn't NW going to move anyway? Speaking of that, did they scrap those plans or what?

At FWA, CO uses DL staff. I can't wait for that to end so I can use anyone else. I dread having to do anything with an agent there (SDC standby, re-route due to weather, bags > 50 pounds, elite tags on bags... the list goes on).

DL needs the widebody gates on T. As it stands, E is full during the afternoon international rush, A gets pretty full for the 767 gates there (there are only 6-7 gates on A that can handle the 767, and B can't take them now), while T gives them 5 additional widebody gates (some of which are already being used for international departures).

The other big thing with T is convenience - no need to take the tram. AA won't move off of them - they've got the ultimate setup in Atlanta. The north security checkpoint is often a lot shorter than the main checkpoint, AA is the first carrier there, and they've got their own baggage claim area - they use the old international baggage claim now, away from everyone else.

Best hope might be to get United to move over to Concourse D - options would include either:
(a) swapping UA/US - both have three gates
(b) swapping UA/DL - Delta would give up the three former NW gates on D, they would take three more T gates. Only thing not great about that for Delta is that these three gates would be a little isolated from the rest of their operation.
(c) trade for the city-owned gates. Most of the south-side D gates are city-owned gates. It's possible UA could trade with Atlanta - give up three gates on T for three of the city gates on D. Frontier, Midwest and Spirit would be the most likely ones to move as a result of this. It would keep AC over on D though for the proposed joint venture.
(d) just stay in their current place and keep the status quo.

Most feasible I see are options A or B. With option B, it at least gives Delta an additional widebody gate, and it could be 2 if they use a MD-88 or 737 at the middle UA gate.

Might UA move back to where it was just a few years ago??--on the other side of Terminal A and move back DL/NWA to where DL used to be..over with AA and Frontier. They could move US back too and that side would be US/UA/AC with CO connection and the CO President's Club

I doubt UA would move to C or E....because CO would be afraid of who would replace them in Term A. I am sure that they'd prefer for some LCC not to move in there.

At DTW I have heard from the ticketing agents that Continental will be moving to the new North Terminal in the early Fall as they transition out of SkyTeam and into Star Alliance. Right now they use three gates on the B Concourse and one gate on the C concourse for regional get operations. The North Terminal at DTW has open gates.

As for ORD, I have been told by the Presidents Club and the World Club Agents that Delta is moving to the Northwest gate area and the WorldClub/Presidents Club will become an excluse Delta SkyClub this summer or fall.

i'd be curious to see what they do at DCA...hopefully move over to the center pier with UA.

Noooooo. Losing that PC would be quite horrible.

The only club in SAN T2 is the DL CRC. Seeing as that will be off limits come Oct., wouldn't it be better for CO to move to the UA area in T1 and share the RCC? Who cares if T1 is dumpy if you don't have to spend any time there.


CO has a nice club over in its area. While I'm sure rent is costly, I'd much rather see UA move to near the CO gates.

Though I think in this situation, it would make sense for CO to move to the UA area. There is a RCC there.

I just do not see CO moving from its gates at DCA. CO has the best gates - since they are quick pull in gates - not a pier with complicated backing out. Not enough gates over in pier B anyway - AA is there too.

All the club space is expensive at DCA - that is why NW did not want to move since they own the space at DCA - Terminal 1 (old terminal).

AA and UA have clubs in pier B. DL is alone in its location - but there is space for another club there.

The gates in the old, historic terminal have not opened and not sure when they will open. The plan was to tear down the NW pier and extend the gates across the historic terminal. Now with Spirit and AirTran in the NW pier - who knows.

It could be possible to add the gates in the historic terminal and have UA move there - next to CO and expand the DCA club there - there is room - as the original plan was for NW to move over next to CO in the historic terminal gate area and the DCA PC club would be a combo CO/NW. But NW did not want to move - to pay the high fees.

The big question is - how will NW and DL consolidate at DCA?

But why would they want to do that?

Not saying that it's logical or possible because I don't know DCA, but just from looking at the map it looks like if NW owns its space in A, they could either displace everyone else and bring DL to A, or sell the space to someone else and move to the current DL area. Will (hypothetically) a move by AA and F9 open enough space for CO and AC? That way, *A is in those two piers.

The problem is that NW does not want to give up its current space (cheap). The plan was to tear down the NW wing and expand along the old, historic terminal. But if anyone moves into the old terminal (no one there now) then they would have to pay the entire rent on the building. I guess the gov't pays it now - which owns the DCA/IAD airports.

Probably not a lot of reason for the airlines to move around. Really no connecting traffic through DCA (other than maybe a little on US) - so likely not an issue to keep separated.

I do not see any of the current airlines wanting to move out of the new DCA terminal and move to the NW terminal - and there is not enough room to move NW over by DL.