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Olton Hall Oct 10, 2009 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12595316)
I can't decide if I want to go to PDX next weekend or up to bellingham.

Well Bellingham is a lot closer but why there? Outlet shopping with all the Canadians? Get a look at one of These Planes?

FT Lurker Oct 10, 2009 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595387)
My first vehicle was a 1986 Toyota Pickup, which I recieved in mid 1997. No power steering, no a/c, no radio as the felt had rotted away from the magnet in the speakers. It got me from A to B though.

The minivan (1997 Nissan Quest, nicknamed ?Love) had power steering but it would the fluid would often "freeze" in the cold Chicago winters. Sometimes I had to make three lefts instead of a single right turn. :rolleyes:

Olton Hall Oct 10, 2009 3:47 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595808)
Check out COA1930 on FlightAware -- empty 753 ferrying PHL-EWR.

I wonder what it was doing in PHL.

sdm1130 Oct 10, 2009 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12595861)
I wonder what it was doing in PHL.

Football charter.

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12595840)
Sometimes I had to make three lefts instead of a single right turn. :rolleyes:

Three rights make a left. (That's for you, fozz.)


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12595960)
Football charter.

It brought the Bucs up to play the Eagles tomorrow. It came up from TPA as CO1919.

FT Lurker Oct 10, 2009 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595971)
Three rights make a left. (That's for you, fozz.)

:D

True. Left turns can be made wider than right turns, too.

CO 1E Oct 10, 2009 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595360)
HAHA. A us pilot just called Ground to complain that a catering truck cut him off on the taxiway.

Nothing like a little liveatc.net to spice up the evening.

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by CO 1E (Post 12596084)
Nothing like a little liveatc.net to spice up the evening.

My wife always gives me :rolleyes: for listening to it.

SuperG1955 Oct 10, 2009 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 12594903)
This is so strange. I am listening to FM 105.9 which is out of NYC and I'm picking up transmissions from AA (Geez, don't they know I want CO traffic)
and I guess EWR. This has never happened before. Any of you techno guys know why?


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595116)
Likely some harmonics. Pretty interesting that you're able to pick it up.


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595144)
Two nights at a full-service Hilton, or two nights at an average Hampton with 10K left over. Or one night at a Waldorf Collection property. Give or take a little on all of those.

It's on the high side of the FM commercial radio band, and lowest commercial aviation radio frequency allowed is 108.0. There's probably something in the atmosphere that is making the AA signal bleed down into the commercial band. I don't know the science behind it, but it's along the same lines as when big-time CB radio users back when they were all the rage used to piss off their neighbors by having their radio traffic come through the speakers of the TVs next door.


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595232)
It is likely Tower/Ramp/other ATC comms as most two-way radios that operate in that range have privacy squelch built in. But I could be way off on that.

Doh! I've not been at the top of my game the last few days. :)


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 12595707)
Where were you? I listened to that station between 1 and 2PM this afternoon while driving around Maywood and Hackensack, NJ and heard nothing but Die Meistersinger.

IMO.

-ATC 108 - 135.999 is AM and would not be heard on an FM receiver.
-Airline and ramp service companies use FM in the 420 - 490 MHz bands which are the 4th harmonic of high end (frequency not quality) commercial FM broadcast.
-420MHz is line of sight reception explaining cruisr only hearing airborne side of conversation. Service companies, particularly fuelers, service multiple airlines and would be heard talking to multiple carriers.
-The privacy tones mentioned by Mackieman are used to limit access into repeaters and to squelch unwanted reception at handhelds and mobile radios but would not affect a screwed up FM Broadcast band receiver.
- The things that could affect the receiver and cause it to act in this manner could be something like placement of a metal object nearby, placement of the power cord and many other seemingly unrelated things.
-FM reception is capture dependent - the strongest signal on a frequency at the receiver isthe only one you'd hear. A weaker broadcast FM could easily be overridden by a transmission from an overhead aircraft.
- for Mackieman Many years ago, I was trying to filter a VERY powerful 50MHz signal (2KW to a quad yagi array adding aout 16db effective radiated) from a neighbors TV by coiling the power cord around a ferrite rod and at one point choked 60 Hz and had the set turn off. I had three fellow hams over to verify the weird event and it was fully reproducible. I finally convinced the neighbor to get cable and a new color TV. ;) We were both happier. 73 de N2BYU.
- to the non EE's and hams, sorry for the tech stuff.

- monitor What were you doing in that area? That's where our NJ home is.

We're goinng out to dinner so I'll answer any responses later this evening.

icurhere2 Oct 10, 2009 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595144)
Two nights at a full-service Hilton, or two nights at an average Hampton with 10K left over. Or one night at a Waldorf Collection property. Give or take a little on all of those.

That's the thing - knowing what HHonors was like 8 or 9 years ago, those redemption levels hurt me.

icurhere2 Oct 10, 2009 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 12595344)
My first car was over 20 years old, but I was happy to have transportation and a car I could fit 7 or 8 people in :D

My first car was a late 1970's Buick LeSabre. I had seven people in the car once and a simple rule - anyone who touches me gets out. Apparently, there was plenty of room.

icurhere2 Oct 10, 2009 4:55 pm

I'm not an Ole Miss fan. Nice to see them losing again.

icurhere2 Oct 10, 2009 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595360)
HAHA. A us pilot just called Ground to complain that a catering truck cut him off on the taxiway.

A very valid complaint but whining is a different story ...

icurhere2 Oct 10, 2009 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595444)
So I take it that you would show an interest should the LAS large-scale firearm Do ever happen? I really want to go to one of those gun shops that lets you take machine guns into the desert.

I'll tell you the weeks I'm available :D

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 4:59 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12596303)
A very valid complaint but whining is a different story ...

Who said whining? :confused:


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