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ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12594253)
I got that offer as well but don't know what 60,000 HHonors points does for me.

Two nights at a full-service Hilton, or two nights at an average Hampton with 10K left over. Or one night at a Waldorf Collection property. Give or take a little on all of those.


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 12594903)
This is so strange. I am listening to FM 105.9 which is out of NYC and I'm picking up transmissions from AA (Geez, don't they know I want CO traffic)
and I guess EWR. This has never happened before. Any of you techno guys know why?

It's on the high side of the FM commercial radio band, and lowest commercial aviation radio frequency allowed is 108.0. There's probably something in the atmosphere that is making the AA signal bleed down into the commercial band. I don't know the science behind it, but it's along the same lines as when big-time CB radio users back when they were all the rage used to piss off their neighbors by having their radio traffic come through the speakers of the TVs next door.

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595116)
Likely some harmonics. Pretty interesting that you're able to pick it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonics

You were right, Mackieman. We need decoder rings or something.

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595164)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonics

You were right, Mackieman. We need decoder rings or something.

I spent some time trying to design printed circuit boards in such a way to avoid harmonics from the 800MHz and 1900MHz bands.

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 2:27 pm

Can you tell if it's pilots talking to controllers, or does it sound more like mechanics and dispatchers? It could be coming from JFK somewhere.

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595190)
I spent some time trying to design printed circuit boards in such a way to avoid harmonics from the 800MHz and 1900MHz bands.

I don't blame you for missing the callback. The decoder ring joke was about when we both noticed that the Do IV font was from Grand Theft Auto. :p

cheepneezy Oct 10, 2009 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595164)
You were right, Mackieman. We need decoder rings or something.

I hear The Partridge Family in my fillings.:eek::D;)

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595192)
Can you tell if it's pilots talking to controllers, or does it sound more like mechanics and dispatchers? It could be coming from JFK somewhere.

It is likely Tower/Ramp/other ATC comms as most two-way radios that operate in that range have privacy squelch built in. But I could be way off on that.


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595209)
I don't blame you for missing the callback. The decoder ring joke was about when we both noticed that the Do IV font was from Grand Theft Auto. :p

Doh! I've not been at the top of my game the last few days. :)

ConciergeMike Oct 10, 2009 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595232)
It is likely Tower/Ramp/other ATC comms as most two-way radios that operate in that range have privacy squelch built in. But I could be way off on that.

I just turned on LiveATC for PHL Ramp and the first flight I heard was CO1919.

ETA: I didn't think 1919 was a PHL flight number, and I was right. I just happened to pick up the CO charter that the Bucs are using to come in for playing the Eagles. They are on a 753, but the PDA site won't tell me what ship it was.

cruisr Oct 10, 2009 2:35 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595232)
It is likely Tower/Ramp/other ATC comms as most two-way radios that operate in that range have privacy squelch built in. But I could be way off on that.



Doh! I've not been at the top of my game the last few days. :)

Its the actual birds as I just picked up Jet Blue also. I can't hear the tower, just the aircraft confirming details. It hasn't happened in a few minutes though so maybe the harmonics changed tune:eek: Actually there it goes again.

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12595264)
I just turned on LiveATC for PHL Ramp and the first flight I heard was CO1919.

I enjoyed listening to KAUS last week while ssullivan was on a NW flight to IAH that diverted to AUS due to WX. Lots of flights waiting and lots of ATC chatter related to it.

baglady Oct 10, 2009 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 12593633)
Did you run over their toes?

No, but I came very, very close!

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 12595280)
Its the actual birds as I just picked up Jet Blue also. I can't hear the tower, just the aircraft confirming details. It hasn't happened in a few minutes though so maybe the harmonics changed tune:eek: Actually there it goes again.

RF signals are waves so your ability to pick them up on a resonate harmonic frequency will change as you and the aircraft change position. Chances are that you are out of phase for tower comms but in phase based on location for the aircraft themselves.

I wish I was smart enough to major in RF engineering because it is really, really cool. We did a lot of that in preparation for ham radio licensing (KE5BGY here).

cruisr Oct 10, 2009 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12595301)
RF signals are waves so your ability to pick them up on a resonate harmonic frequency will change as you and the aircraft change position. Chances are that you are out of phase for tower comms but in phase based on location for the aircraft themselves.

I wish I was smart enough to major in RF engineering because it is really, really cool. We did a lot of that in preparation for ham radio licensing (KE5BGY here).

Swooooooosssshhhhhhh

That was the sound of what you said going right over my head.

colpuck Oct 10, 2009 2:41 pm

I can't decide if I want to go to PDX next weekend or up to bellingham.

Mackieman Oct 10, 2009 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 12595315)
Swooooooosssshhhhhhh

That was the sound of what you said going right over my head.

That's ok, I'm usually full of crap anyway. :)


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