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icurhere2 Sep 17, 2009 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12398666)
And the award for worst Long-Haul J Seat in the world goes to...


CSA Czech Airlines!

Less comfortable than the old-school YX seating?

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 17, 2009 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12398716)
Less comfortable than the old-school YX seating?

Never flew Midwest. However, AFAIK, they never had the audacity to send their product (however pathetic it may have been) Transatlantic.

Flyer_70 Sep 17, 2009 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12398723)
Never flew Midwest. However, AFAIK, they never had the audacity to send their product (however pathetic it may have been) Transatlantic.

Nope - I think they had a 1K range around MKE. :D

Midwest was actually quite nice back in the day (if, indeed we are discussing Midwest Express.. que up the idiot bells if we are not. ). All leather F type seats and cookies for all. Unfortunately I stopped flying them a while ago and the airline has gone downhill (so I've heard) since that time.

Editing - I didn't know too much about travel at the time so in general, cookies made me happy. :p

icurhere2 Sep 17, 2009 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12398723)
However, AFAIK, they never had the audacity to send their product (however pathetic it may have been) Transatlantic.

This was really TATL? JFK-PRG? Wow.

ETA: Original YX (which later became signature service) seems about equivalent to this TATL offering.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 17, 2009 9:22 pm

I should mention that the previous photo displays the seat in full recline with the leg-rest fully extended. The leg-rest extends no more than 3"-4", maximum. It is, for all intents and purposes, completely useless (unless you happen to be a circus midget).

sdm1130 Sep 17, 2009 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by Flyer_70 (Post 12398742)
Nope - I think they had a 1K range around MKE. :D

Midwest was actually quite nice back in the day (if, indeed we are discussing Midwest Express.. que up the idiot bells if we are not. ). All leather F type seats and cookies for all. Unfortunately I stopped flying them a while ago and the airline has gone downhill (so I've heard) since that time.

Editing - I didn't know too much about travel at the time so in general, cookies made me happy. :p

I tried YX a few years back (EWR-MKE-DSM) and, I agree, their soft and hard products were quite nice for a domestic carrier. The 2-2 leather seating on their MadDogs was quite comfortable and the cookies were excellent.

Unfortunately, as you said, it sounds like their service offerings have really gone down hill over the years.

icurhere2 Sep 17, 2009 9:24 pm

(SkyTeam partner) has similar seats / lame legrests on the ex-SQ / ex-AT 752s they fly to Hawai'i.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 17, 2009 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12398750)
This was really TATL? JFK-PRG? Wow.

ETA: Original YX (which later became signature service) seems about equivalent to this TATL offering.

Yep. That's their flagship product. Not really surprised that they are discontinuing long-haul ops to focus on being a regional SkyTeam carrier in Eastern Europe.

FT Lurker Sep 17, 2009 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 12394966)
NSFW (F-bomb/audio): Oh Ernie, what were you thinking? :o:D:-:

This is from the same station that starts their newscast, "It's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children are?"

Hopefully not listening to Uncle Ernie drop F-bombs on the air.

Joking aside, he apologised this evening.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 17, 2009 9:26 pm

CSA didn't even bother painting one of its A310s in the new SkyTeam livery. Instead, they chose... an ATR 42! :D

MBM3 Sep 17, 2009 9:29 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12398762)
Yep. That's their flagship product. Not really surprised that they are discontinuing long-haul ops to focus on being a regional SkyTeam carrier in Eastern Europe.

Taking after neighbor to the south, Malev, who does a pretty decent job with their hodgepodge of routes and equipment. They may be in oneworld but they partner with pretty much everyone. Malev gets their long haul needs met and the partners get great feed from Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

icurhere2 Sep 17, 2009 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12398765)
Hopefully not listening to Uncle Ernie drop F-bombs on the air.

His colleague had a nice whisky-tango-foxtrot face after that utterance.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Sep 17, 2009 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by MBM3 (Post 12398785)
Taking after neighbor to the south, Malev, who does a pretty decent job with their hodgepodge of routes and equipment. They may be in oneworld but they partner with pretty much everyone. Malev gets their long haul needs met and the partners get great feed from Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Does Malev no longer do long-haul? IIRC, they once had 767s...

icurhere2 Sep 17, 2009 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12398773)
CSA didn't even bother painting one of its A310s in the new SkyTeam livery. Instead, they chose... an ATR 42! :D

Think about asking and ye shall receive.

Besides, they saved funds on livery in order to enhance their TATL J product.

colpuck Sep 17, 2009 9:43 pm

How hard is it to get EK reward seats?


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