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Phudnik Feb 19, 2010 5:44 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13418915)
mwg25, feel free to join if you feel like; will forward you the PM I sent earlier. Steve and Brit both showed interest as well.

I saw a fare of $265 all in for the 9th. Is that what you paid?

I may have to tag along. The more, the :rolleyes:ier.


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 13419806)
"E+ is coming, e+ is coming" said chicken little....

It wouldn't surprise me, given the alignment with UA, but the sourcing was a bit ... suspect.

Steph3n Feb 19, 2010 5:51 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13419969)


It wouldn't surprise me, given the alignment with UA, but the sourcing was a bit ... suspect.

I have a few doubts, mostly due to the new lie flat BF retrofit, they have already sent these in for the changes, and it would be an added cost to send them back. Logically they would have done it all at the same time, yet they are not coming out with that from the shop.

I am somewhat wondering if CO e+ will be akin to EU 'business' with an open middle seat.....i.e. width over pitch.

COFreqFlyer Feb 19, 2010 5:57 am

Good :rolleyes:, box. IND-IAH-MAF today. "B" Club around noonish, if anyone is there.

Phudnik Feb 19, 2010 6:06 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 13419989)
I have a few doubts, mostly due to the new lie flat BF retrofit, they have already sent these in for the changes, and it would be an added cost to send them back. Logically they would have done it all at the same time, yet they are not coming out with that from the shop.

I am somewhat wondering if CO e+ will be akin to EU 'business' with an open middle seat.....i.e. width over pitch.

I suppose that depends on the maintenance cycle. All one has to do is yank out a row or two of Y and rejigger the remaining seats. It's not like the seats are being replaced.

Steph3n Feb 19, 2010 6:13 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13420038)
I suppose that depends on the maintenance cycle. All one has to do is yank out a row or two of Y and rejigger the remaining seats. It's not like the seats are being replaced.

using width instead of pitch gives them a dynamic factor however, it can be the first two rows and exit rows on one flight, or it can be sardine can on another :)


I have been trying to go back to sleep, no luck. I really need this weekend retreat.

Mackieman Feb 19, 2010 6:21 am


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 13418937)
Mackieman is on the precipice of a Box milestone. :cool:


Gnite Box

I am?

Edit: Oh, this is post 4,000 in the Box. Hooray. :)

sbm12 Feb 19, 2010 6:23 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 13419218)
As much of a MS fanboy as I am accused of being, I hate Exchange with a passion. I run on unix platform for email, it just works better :)

If you just need email then Exchange is not the best product. When you look at a fully integrated groupware environment there are only a couple options out there and Exchange is hard to beat on many levels, both client and server.

And once you've committed to Exchange there is nothing better than BES for mobile integration. There just isn't. And the IOPS impact is worth mentioning but not enough to take away from that. Just spec the hardware appropriately and you're fine. The incremental costs to support those needs are so low per-user across a large implementation that it really doesn't matter too much.

ConciergeMike Feb 19, 2010 6:26 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13419969)
I saw a fare of $265 all in for the 9th. Is that what you paid?

I may have to tag along. The more, the :rolleyes:ier.

Yessir, that's it. Flights are 8800/420/287/1776.

Morning, Box.

I had no idea that I'd touch off another group MR. :D

Mackieman Feb 19, 2010 6:28 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13420101)
Yessir, that's it. Flights are 8800/420/287/1776.

Morning, Box.

I had no idea that I'd touch off another group MR. :D

Such power you hold.

ConciergeMike Feb 19, 2010 6:29 am


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 13418886)
The Palm Chicago still has the Businessperson Lunch Special from last year. $1 more than last spring but I can cope.

Other than being forced into ordering Half and Half, the biz lunch sounds truly divine...Caesar, Chicken Parm, and Key Lime pie. Yummeh.

Steph3n Feb 19, 2010 6:29 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13420085)
If you just need email then Exchange is not the best product. When you look at a fully integrated groupware environment there are only a couple options out there and Exchange is hard to beat on many levels, both client and server.

And once you've committed to Exchange there is nothing better than BES for mobile integration. There just isn't. And the IOPS impact is worth mentioning but not enough to take away from that. Just spec the hardware appropriately and you're fine. The incremental costs to support those needs are so low per-user across a large implementation that it really doesn't matter too much.

1. Sure I will agree to that, but I dislike groupwares normally, I understand their need in some orgs.

2. BIS also has this issue, with IMAP sync they open 100s(even just for 1-2 phones) of connections to IMAP making a mess. This wasn't so much an issue till all the phone companies started bundling it free and its become :rolleyes: trying to keep them in line on IMAP connections now.

windwalker Feb 19, 2010 6:29 am

How'd do Box

ConciergeMike Feb 19, 2010 6:30 am


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 13420115)
Such power you hold.

The mystical aura of Copa. :D

Mackieman Feb 19, 2010 6:35 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 13420120)
The mystical aura of Copa. :D

So we've got the Mystical Aura of Copa, The Oracle of belynch, and The Wizzard of Fozz. You're moving on up in the world. :D

sbm12 Feb 19, 2010 6:41 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 13420118)
1. Sure I will agree to that, but I dislike groupwares normally, I understand their need in some orgs.

Yup...any company with more than about 5 people that actually want to be able to easily coordinate benefit from such tools. You might not like them but they really do change the way an organization works - for the better - when introduced.


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 13420118)
2. BIS also has this issue, with IMAP sync they open 100s(even just for 1-2 phones) of connections to IMAP making a mess. This wasn't so much an issue till all the phone companies started bundling it free and its become :rolleyes: trying to keep them in line on IMAP connections now.

But I was talking about the proper implementation via BES. ;) For an Exchange implementation shouldn't the BIS users be using the OWA/OMA/WebDAV integration anyways?


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