May 17, 2013, 11:04 pm
Last edit by: beltway
- What are the most current working links?
- Is this card churnable?
- How frequently can I apply for these cards?
- Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
- I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
[1] What are the most current working links?
There is a standard offer for 50K points after $1K spend in 4 months. (No landing page is available for this offer; lnik taken from wiki for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...amex-citi.html.)
There are no known 60K offers available. The most recent one expired in late September 2014.
[2] Is this card churnable?
In the past, this card has been easily churnable. However, in December 2014 Citi began inserting language into some applications and landing pages disqualifying current Hilton Visa cardholders & requiring an 18-month wait from the date of the previous card's cancellation. The application link listed above does not include this restriction, and FTers have confirmed that they have been approved through this application despite being current or recent holders of another Citi Hilton card.
[3] How frequently can I apply for these cards?
You can only apply for ONE Citi card in a week or TWO in two months (60 days). To be safe, it is frequently suggested to wait 8+ days between ANY two Citi applications and 65+ days until your third Citi application of ANY kind. These are rolling dates, so you have to wait at least 60 days (65+) from your second application to your 4th applications, and so forth.
If math is not your strong suit, you can use: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html.
Example:
Day 0 - Citi HHonors Card #1
Day 8 - Citi AA Personal Card
Day 65 - Citi AA Business Card
Day 73 - Citi HHonors Card #2
Day 130 - Citi TY Card
[4] Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
Not if you use the application link above. As stated above, in December 2014 Citi began introducing new application pages requiring an 18-month wait since cancellation of the prior card.
Note that when you close an account, Citi may not "free up" the credit limit from that card for as long as 6 months. So if you're going to apply within 6 months, it's better to not cancel beforehand.
[5] I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
There appears to be a problem with Citi crediting you with both bonuses but Hilton not crediting the second bonus because their system sees it as a duplicate.
You need to open up a case, preferably with Hilton, and explain that you have two separate cards (feel free to explain one is for business and one for personal if they ask why you have multiple cards and you feel like explaining). You also need to diligently check back with them and make sure that they do not close the case as you already got the bonus.
This is very much a YMMV situation. Depending on who you talk to and where, this can be a relatively short process or a particularly unpleasant and long one. Best advice: Be nice to the CSRs and get them on your side or HUACA until you find someone useful.
For some people it may be worth getting the 50K card instead, possibly trying to "bump the bonus" to 60K and getting it as a 10K adjustment instead.
Citi Hilton HHonors Visa [2011-2014]
Nov 21, 2012, 10:20 am
#1141
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 670
If you are asking whether gold status earns you more points/$ on daily credit card spend, the answer is no.
Nov 21, 2012, 12:04 pm
#1142
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
Gotcha. I think I might do the HHitlon Amex nonSurpass and the CitiReserve and I will have them split the bill among the two of them.
Nov 21, 2012, 4:37 pm
#1143
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Doing two apps for two HHonors cards (or two AA cards, but not one of each!) at the same time only results in one credit pull.
Each credit pull lowers your credit rating (temporarily) a bit, so minimizing the credit pulls (while still applying for credit cards) improves your credit rating, compared to applying for the same number of credit cards "randomly".
Nov 21, 2012, 4:43 pm
#1144
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
Gotcha. I will look into the pull on the HHilton cards...I am trying to figure all this out and best way of doing it.
Nov 21, 2012, 7:36 pm
#1145
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
Data point for today
Used link number 2 and 3 from Post number 468 , used safari and firefox...got to step 5 for both but had to call in to be approved
Used link number 2 and 3 from Post number 468 , used safari and firefox...got to step 5 for both but had to call in to be approved
Last edited by metoo; Nov 21, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Nov 21, 2012, 9:28 pm
#1146
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Platinum, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 290
Got both Citi hiltons, applied with link in 468 on 11/9/12. Confirmed both 50k bonuses. Already went to the ice cream shop to meet one of my card's spending 
Nov 22, 2012, 5:17 am
#1147
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
^^
Got a big question for this. Trying to do three way HHilton because I have a wedding coming up but need to think of this
Amex Non Surpass HHilton - 65K -$3750
Citi HHonors Visa Signature - 50K - $1000
Citi Reserve - Gold Status - $2500 - 24.5X possible
Now the thing is this should I apply for the Citi's first or should I get the Amex. The Amex Terms says that I cannot get it the bonus if I have another card so should I do the following?
Does the math work
Apply for Amex
Apply for Citi Reserve and Visa
Get Gold Status
Use Amex to get bonus (65,000 + 3750(24.5)=156,875)
Use Visa to get bonus (40,000 + 1,000(24.5) = 64,500)
Use Citi Reserve for remainder to get the two weekends - ($2750x24.5=67375)
Can you please let me know. Very soon I need to deposit it.
Got a big question for this. Trying to do three way HHilton because I have a wedding coming up but need to think of this
Amex Non Surpass HHilton - 65K -$3750
Citi HHonors Visa Signature - 50K - $1000
Citi Reserve - Gold Status - $2500 - 24.5X possible
Now the thing is this should I apply for the Citi's first or should I get the Amex. The Amex Terms says that I cannot get it the bonus if I have another card so should I do the following?
Does the math work
Apply for Amex
Apply for Citi Reserve and Visa
Get Gold Status
Use Amex to get bonus (65,000 + 3750(24.5)=156,875)
Use Visa to get bonus (40,000 + 1,000(24.5) = 64,500)
Use Citi Reserve for remainder to get the two weekends - ($2750x24.5=67375)
Can you please let me know. Very soon I need to deposit it.
Nov 22, 2012, 7:06 am
#1148
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: AMEX Plat, AAdvantage Gold, UA, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 963
^^
Got a big question for this. Trying to do three way HHilton because I have a wedding coming up but need to think of this
Amex Non Surpass HHilton - 65K -$3750
Citi HHonors Visa Signature - 50K - $1000
Citi Reserve - Gold Status - $2500 - 24.5X possible
Now the thing is this should I apply for the Citi's first or should I get the Amex. The Amex Terms says that I cannot get it the bonus if I have another card so should I do the following?
Does the math work
Apply for Amex
Apply for Citi Reserve and Visa
Get Gold Status
Use Amex to get bonus (65,000 + 3750(24.5)=156,875)
Use Visa to get bonus (40,000 + 1,000(24.5) = 64,500)
Use Citi Reserve for remainder to get the two weekends - ($2750x24.5=67375)
Can you please let me know. Very soon I need to deposit it.
Got a big question for this. Trying to do three way HHilton because I have a wedding coming up but need to think of this
Amex Non Surpass HHilton - 65K -$3750
Citi HHonors Visa Signature - 50K - $1000
Citi Reserve - Gold Status - $2500 - 24.5X possible
Now the thing is this should I apply for the Citi's first or should I get the Amex. The Amex Terms says that I cannot get it the bonus if I have another card so should I do the following?
Does the math work
Apply for Amex
Apply for Citi Reserve and Visa
Get Gold Status
Use Amex to get bonus (65,000 + 3750(24.5)=156,875)
Use Visa to get bonus (40,000 + 1,000(24.5) = 64,500)
Use Citi Reserve for remainder to get the two weekends - ($2750x24.5=67375)
Can you please let me know. Very soon I need to deposit it.
Nov 22, 2012, 11:15 am
#1150
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: 25 million points to burn!
Posts: 1,522
I applied using the link in the OP. I'll get the 50K after min. spend with this one, right?
Nov 22, 2012, 12:11 pm
#1151
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
I got it from the fact that I will get 10HH for each $ spent at the hilton for being in HH points, + 12 HH points for using HHilton rewards card, + 25% for being a gold member.
Nov 22, 2012, 12:18 pm
#1152
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,879
Don't fully understand what you are trying to calculate but......For "conferences" or groups, Hilton does not necessarily give points. Need to make sure you negotiate the points when you make the arrangements.
Nov 22, 2012, 4:41 pm
#1153
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
Ok, I'll check that but still does the following make sense:
HHonors member gets 10 points per dollar spent
Use Reserve Card to get Gold Status and 12 points per dollar spent
If I use my CSP I would get 10HHpoints+2UR+1MP
If I use Reserve I would get 10HHpoints+12Points for card use X 1.25 for gold status?
What's the best plan of action on this? I have til the 28th...
HHonors member gets 10 points per dollar spent
Use Reserve Card to get Gold Status and 12 points per dollar spent
If I use my CSP I would get 10HHpoints+2UR+1MP
If I use Reserve I would get 10HHpoints+12Points for card use X 1.25 for gold status?
What's the best plan of action on this? I have til the 28th...
Nov 22, 2012, 6:52 pm
#1154
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,456
At a traditional Hilton property (not one of the lesser brands), if you opt for Points + Points and the Points MyWay amenity and you have Gold status, then you should earn like this:
Base earnings: 10 base points + 25% Gold bonus = 12.5 points per $ of room rate + qualifying spend
Points+Points bonus: 5 bonus points per $ of room rate + qualifying spend
MyWay Amenity: 1000 points
Total stay earnings: 1000 + 17.5 points/$ of room rate + qualifying spend
See: https://www.hiltonhhonors.com/servic...lator_pop.aspx
As a completely separate decision, if you use the Reserve card, you get 10 points per dollar on ALL spend, including taxes.
Thus, the maximum you could earn is roughly 27.5 pts/$ plus 1000 per stay.
Note that many people think choosing Points+Points is a poor decision, since airline miles tend to be a better value. Similarly, for the amenity, breakfast is generally a better value.
All of this info is readily available on the HHonors website. If you're thinking about making these moves, it would be a good use of your time to read it over and make some notes for yourself, lest you end up taking questionable forum advice.
Base earnings: 10 base points + 25% Gold bonus = 12.5 points per $ of room rate + qualifying spend
Points+Points bonus: 5 bonus points per $ of room rate + qualifying spend
MyWay Amenity: 1000 points
Total stay earnings: 1000 + 17.5 points/$ of room rate + qualifying spend
See: https://www.hiltonhhonors.com/servic...lator_pop.aspx
As a completely separate decision, if you use the Reserve card, you get 10 points per dollar on ALL spend, including taxes.
Thus, the maximum you could earn is roughly 27.5 pts/$ plus 1000 per stay.
Note that many people think choosing Points+Points is a poor decision, since airline miles tend to be a better value. Similarly, for the amenity, breakfast is generally a better value.
All of this info is readily available on the HHonors website. If you're thinking about making these moves, it would be a good use of your time to read it over and make some notes for yourself, lest you end up taking questionable forum advice.
Nov 22, 2012, 9:19 pm
#1155
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: MileagePlus
Posts: 190
Thanks for unquestionable advice haha. My issue was that the HHonors doesn't specifically state said "stacking of points" is against it...I am going to have to send an email to my mom and fiance and tell them to coordinate with them. It's pretty crazy saying that I will only get 6,000 points...ridiculous...
I'll coordinate to have everything charged to my room (I'll put it on my reserve card) if available and that will be 27.5 x $4500...need to talk to the coordinator...haha.
Anyways thanks for all the sound advice, going to pick up the Citi Reserve, and 50,000 Visa, along with the Amex No fee...
I'll coordinate to have everything charged to my room (I'll put it on my reserve card) if available and that will be 27.5 x $4500...need to talk to the coordinator...haha.
Anyways thanks for all the sound advice, going to pick up the Citi Reserve, and 50,000 Visa, along with the Amex No fee...