Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Destinations > Asia > China
Reload this Page >

Current China Entry policy

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Current China Entry policy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 3:04 pm
  #1501  
20 Nights
500k
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: PMD
Programs: UA*G, NW, AA-G. WR-G, HH-S, IHG, ALL. TT-GE.
Posts: 3,107
Originally Posted by gudugan
And Chinese people in countries outside of the mainland/HK/Macau/Taiwan are making a mistake being there instead of the safe place that is the mainland.
This is a factor some forgot when discussing the recent repatriation saga from Ukraine, or the lack thereof. Plenty of points I won’t discuss here (OMNI-ish), but one complaint about travel cost in the multi-wan (10k) yuan range conveniently omitted the point that going from Europe or North America back to China has always cost many wan yuan for the past many months. No one is really “welcomed” into China and you politically incorrect Chinese should find your way to somewhere you can stay, Poland or Romania or wherever a visa isn’t required.
gudugan likes this.
HkCaGu is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 8:19 pm
  #1502  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
40 Countries Visited
3M
80 Nights
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,198
They are discussing flights diverting from PVG so they can use the hotels for local quarantine cases.

They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here.

Thats my opinion on these two issues for what its worth.
joesk and gudugan like this.
travelinmanS is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 8:30 pm
  #1503  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,927
Originally Posted by kb1992
The policy that people don't have own place but want to stay in Shanghai MUST go to Q hotels for additional 7 days took effect January 24, 2022.

2022??????????(??+??)- ?????

Before that they can stay at any hotel (not Q hotel) and move freely, with additional tests.

This is definitely recent, not October 2021 as you claimed.

The Kingdom treats HK so nicely, even though technically HK is considered "international arrival"

Just compare how China enforces COVID rules for US vs HK. Huge, huge difference. At this point, every pax from the US must pass 4 different PCR/Anti-gen tests on day 1, 5, 6 before they can board the flight.

How many tests HK pax take before flying to PVG?
China thinks of Hong Kong as its own. And is "technically" is (I would add "actually").
Where is HK considered an "international arrival?" China wouldn't use such a word. "International" as in "guo wai"?

I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of the people in China think the US is a different country.
gudugan likes this.
s0ssos is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 8:32 pm
  #1504  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,160
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
They are discussing flights diverting from PVG so they can use the hotels for local quarantine cases.

They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here.

Thats my opinion on these two issues for what its worth.
This is the best explanation I've seen yet. Thanks!
joesk likes this.
moondog is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 9:24 pm
  #1505  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,397
Originally Posted by moondog
Whether you test positive or negative on arrival, you are still accounted for in the Q hotel numbers...but, might end up going to a hospital in the case of positive. There is no increased demand for Q hotels.
The reason is simple, they need the Q hotels to quarantine local close contacts. This is exactly the same reason why Australia drastically cut down the number of arrivals every time there was a local outbreak during its Zero-Covid period.

It isn't an issue of hotel rooms, it's the limited number of qualified staff to run the Q hotels. The issue at Huating was partly down to the use of temp staff.
tauphi is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 9:31 pm
  #1506  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,397
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here.
The lack of flight shutdowns is certainly running contrary to their stated objective of Zero-Covid. However, their actions on the ground does not (currently) align with a plan to let it rip.

In any case the peak in HK seems to have passed so whether flights from there are shut down or not is no longer relevant to the current situation in China.
tauphi is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 11:37 pm
  #1507  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
40 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 38,542
Originally Posted by narvik
Well, we better brace ourselves, is what I am predicting: the next few weeks might get real brutal...and not only in Shanghai.
This. Wuhan was only the introductory act. They've managed to hold it at bay but they're losing it now and there will come a point where they can't manage the logistics of lockdown.
Loren Pechtel is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 11:43 pm
  #1508  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,160
Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
This. Wuhan was only the introductory act. They've managed to hold it at bay but they're losing it now and there will come a point where they can't manage the logistics of lockdown.
You might be right, but I certainly wouldn't bet against them.
moondog is offline  
Old Mar 13, 2022 | 11:56 pm
  #1509  
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,752
Originally Posted by moondog
You might be right, but I certainly wouldn't bet against them.
The cost (I don't mean monetary) will likely be excessive to contain it, and 'other things' will start breaking down.....IMO.
narvik is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:29 am
  #1510  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,160
Originally Posted by narvik
The cost (I don't mean monetary) will likely be excessive to contain it, and 'other things' will start breaking down.....IMO.
I hear you, but their containment measures increasingly appear to have no limits. HK arrivals are definitely a chink in the armor though.
moondog is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:36 am
  #1511  
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 301
Originally Posted by gudugan
Going to get some popcorn. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/Trac...htm#NHC22Mar13

March 13, 2022
Confirmed: 1,938 new, 7,230 current.
Asymptomatic: 1,455 new, 6,287 current.
Recoveries: 169 new. Deaths: 0 new.
A very mature response to the spread of a virus.
Cotton Candy Lobster is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:57 am
  #1512  
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,752
Originally Posted by moondog
I hear you, but their containment measures increasingly appear to have no limits.
I am predicting that the measures will increase in strictness, until such time as it reaches a boiling point, and simply won't be accepted or be enforceable anymore.
At that time the restrictions will ease again, to prevent a "real problem"!
This is all likely going to play out over the next few week & months...
YariGuy and joesk like this.
narvik is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 1:03 am
  #1513  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,927
Originally Posted by narvik
I am predicting that the measures will increase in strictness, until such time as it reaches a boiling point, and simply won't be accepted or be enforceable anymore.
At that time the restrictions will ease again, to prevent a "real problem"!
This is all likely going to play out over the next few week & months...
You know, my friend in Guangzhou made an interesting point. The numbers are "fixed". As in, how come Tianhe didn't get locked down when other places did?
s0ssos is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 1:21 am
  #1514  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Community Builder
Community Influencer
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,160
Originally Posted by s0ssos
You know, my friend in Guangzhou made an interesting point. The numbers are "fixed". As in, how come Tianhe didn't get locked down when other places did?
Perhaps there weren't any cases in Tianhe?
moondog is offline  
Old Mar 14, 2022 | 1:25 am
  #1515  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,927
Originally Posted by moondog
Perhaps there weren't any cases in Tianhe?
She lives in Tianhe. She's pretty sure Tianhe wasn't magically spared when there are outbreaks all over.

She also pointed out some other stuff that is pretty funny/loopholes. Like how she isn't vaccinated. And how her dad didn't quarantine when coming back from a trip to another part of China that had an outbreak. Why? Because their hukou is another place, though they have lived in Tianhe for years. At least in their case officials in one district didn't communicate with the other.
She has lots of funny stories like that. I don't know how common her situation is, but I guess some people slip through the cracks.
s0ssos is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.