Current China Entry policy
#1427
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Oh my! I can see that the horse has left the barn. Simply put, if Vincent (or competitor) agrees to work with any of you guys, you will be able to come here, full stop!
The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice.
The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice.
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Oh my! I can see that the horse has left the barn. Simply put, if Vincent (or competitor) agrees to work with any of you guys, you will be able to come here, full stop!
The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice.
The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice.
Actually I think every positive case is publicized in China. Local officials dare NOT hide anything
#1430
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Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you aren’t an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isn’t a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isn’t a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
#1431
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Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you arent an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isnt a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isnt a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
employees of mine are in government lockdown now.
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Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you arent an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isnt a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isnt a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
Wait until large waves of Omicron. Current zero COVID strategy will eventually fail.
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If you believe Zero Covid will fail, then the logical move is to shift the messaging and eventually open up (like in the above quoted WSJ article). Based on Hong Kong this probability is more likely than not.
If you believe Zero Covid wont fail, then you keep locking down everything again. However there are other confounding factors like the rest of the world is opening up, local property markets, etc.
The dumb part is if they get stuck in the middle (Zero Covid fails, but they dont open it up) ie. Hong Kong. If you look at New Zealand, they just dropped all the quarantine requirements because there are more cases inside the country than out and are accelerating the border reopening timeline.
#1436
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This is pretty simple:
If you believe Zero Covid will fail, then the logical move is to shift the messaging and eventually open up (like in the above quoted WSJ article). Based on Hong Kong this probability is more likely than not.
If you believe Zero Covid wont fail, then you keep locking down everything again. However there are other confounding factors like the rest of the world is opening up, local property markets, etc.
The dumb part is if they get stuck in the middle (Zero Covid fails, but they dont open it up) ie. Hong Kong. If you look at New Zealand, they just dropped all the quarantine requirements because there are more cases inside the country than out and are accelerating the border reopening timeline.
If you believe Zero Covid will fail, then the logical move is to shift the messaging and eventually open up (like in the above quoted WSJ article). Based on Hong Kong this probability is more likely than not.
If you believe Zero Covid wont fail, then you keep locking down everything again. However there are other confounding factors like the rest of the world is opening up, local property markets, etc.
The dumb part is if they get stuck in the middle (Zero Covid fails, but they dont open it up) ie. Hong Kong. If you look at New Zealand, they just dropped all the quarantine requirements because there are more cases inside the country than out and are accelerating the border reopening timeline.
What is going on in Hong Kong now is asinine, yet they still cling to dynamic zero Covid. Why? Xi knows why.
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Its a means of stating ownership, same as how all stamps must state Hong Kong, China, our passport bear the National Emblem, as does our Legco from this sitting (even after the swearing in).
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I still can't believe that elderly people in an advanced modern city like HK refused to be vaccinated.
It's a recipe for disaster.
Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective.
Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor.
#1439
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I still can't believe that elderly people in an advanced modern city like HK refused to be vaccinated.
It's a recipe for disaster.
Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective.
Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor.
It's a recipe for disaster.
Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective.
Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor.
The only way to get them to vaccinate is a outbreak like the one we're having now. It worked to drive up vaccination numbers in NSW in their last winter, it will work here for our seniors. Of course, it will never be official policy to allow an outbreak, hence all the theatre about testing.
It's a combination of King Pooh commanding back the tide, and the Emperor's New Clothes of everyone trying to say it's working.
Last edited by percysmith; Mar 10, 2022 at 11:17 pm
#1440

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China has had the mRNA option, and they have chosen against it...perhaps because they see it as more of an experimental therapeutic than true vaccine. I don’t know if that’s correct, but neither was the narrative that covid STOPS with mRNA. To blast them as “trying to please the emperor” is absurd.


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