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Originally Posted by jonesing
(Post 8739191)
wow! And you didn't get a retalitory secondary or at least a tongue thrashing for "meanacing" a "federal officer"? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by stockmanjr
(Post 8739507)
While I think this kind of stuff needs to be dealt with killing people is sorta of extremely so I'm hoping that you were only joking..
Execution would be a little too extreme. Hard labour while building roads under the Texas or New Mexico summer sun should be more than sufficient punishment for those idiots. |
Wasn't my experience yesterday at MIA, nor the day before that at LIT. So it seems that consistent inconsistency is still the rule of the day.
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Take a look at how the "test" was structured.
Shampoo in unmarked container, "unsafe" chemical in another container (container not described, perhals labelled?), coins left in a pocket as a distraction, "bad" stuff in pockets (not described - was it metal?). This seems to be a test designed for TSA to fail yet demonstrate that TSA followed procedures. So, what will be the result - we're seeing it with "all electronics out" - not that TSA seems to know the difference between electronic and electrical. But next, no unlabelled containers of liquid . . . perhaps even back to no liquid. Empty pockets, doesn't matter whether metallic or not, everything must go. Massage to ensure pockets empty. Sure hope I'm wrong! |
Originally Posted by bseller
(Post 8740436)
The ban was not their idea, it was that of 2 Congressional dimwits who decided it would help with security and didn't mind the fact that the ban was consistent with their personal feelings against smoking.
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Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 8739810)
I carry several electronic devices either because I need them in flight, or because I cannot check them (for fear of theft or damage, neither of which the airlines or TSA will accept any liability for):
My company badge contains two microchips. Is it "electronic?" My RSA token to access the corporate VPN definitely is. Neither of these are supposed to be where someone can get at them, but I often need to travel with them, too. You know what? The TSA can do it. I'm darn well not going to unpack and tapdance for them. :mad: :td: :mad: Also, TSA did miss my RSA token which would have brought my total "electronics" count to 29. |
Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN
(Post 8741025)
You know what, we are still in America, I think; ergo you shouldn't have to explain what your bringing and why.
Also, TSA did miss my RSA token which would have brought my total "electronics" count to 29.
Originally Posted by interviewee in WaPo
"If I'm not doing anything illegal, why is it any of their business?"
Perhaps the best part(s) How far can it go? We have only to recall the 2006 film "The Lives of Others," which portrays how the Stasi of Communist East Germany deployed hundreds of thousands of ordinary people to spy on their fellow citizens and turn them in. ........... In training the BDOs, "we teach that everybody's been in an airport long enough to know what the norm is," says Carl Maccario, a program analyst for what the TSA calls SPOT, or Screening Passengers by Observation Techniques. "There's an expected norm or an expected baseline environment. . . . We teach the BDOs, in a simplified form, to look for anomalous behavior in that environment." Being different? A big problem. ........ "The next thing is they'll just have cameras everywhere," Zuboff says. "They'll have software programmed with algorithms, and the algorithms will be able to detect these so-called anomalies. And so you may be distraught because you're flying home to your grandmother's funeral, but the algorithm has detected an anomalous behavior, and the next thing you're being strip-searched by a couple of FBI agents." |
Originally Posted by xyzzy
(Post 8740120)
That would be great! Sign me up!
Best. Protest. Ever. If every single person in line exercised their rights (which we still have), it will be great. What are they going to do? Say "all of you wanting to exercise your rights should just not do that!"? |
Originally Posted by sbrower
(Post 8737270)
They are "electronics" because, what they really mean is "anything that could be used as a component in an IED."
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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 8739133)
Not at all.
Kip Hawley is a lying little piece of trash. If people choose to work for lying little pieces of trash, they should consider themselves fortunate if passengers only yell at them when they paw through passengers' belongings unnecessarily. |
Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN
(Post 8739215)
The TSA is not protecting us and our constitution; it is violating it.
C'mon, do you really mean you want the TSA to have discretion over Constitutional matters? (I thought not. ;)) |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 8738975)
The IonScan Sentinel II makes most of your agency's harassment completely unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 8743561)
http://www.global-security-solutions...nSentinel.htm:
No shoe carnival, no liquids nonsense, no modesty issues ... no kidding! Why the hell can't *we* have this? |
Originally Posted by bzbdewd
(Post 8743573)
Because *they* didn't think of it first... and it most importantly it would end the Thousands Standing Around silly!! :rolleyes:
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So TSA takes us to "Ludicrous Policy," much like Dark Helmet went to "Ludicrous Speed" in "Spaceballs." Seems rather similar. :D
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