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-   -   New ludicrous electronics out at TSA Checkpoint (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate/757578-new-ludicrous-electronics-out-tsa-checkpoint.html)

PDXUAFAN Nov 15, 2007 3:10 pm
Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 8736636)
Has anyone confirmed this has occurred anywhere except CVG?

Sounds like another rogue screener, and the OP should have called a supervisor or manager over...

Having said that, the TSA is getting horrible press this week with one story after the other going on and on about their failures, then you have the chief idiot being grilled (not effectively enough, mind you) by Congress.

Rather than take accountability for their own incompetence and failure, they will just figure out how to stick it to the passenger and make our lives worse.

Time to get rid of this agency. TSA be gone!!
I'm at IAD now... it was not a rogue screener but the entire security point staff repeating the mantra: "all electronics out, new policy as of today... for your safety we need all electronics out."

I overheard idiotic stuff like "does it have a transistor" spew out of the TSA staff and "does electricity or battery power run through it...

JakiChan Nov 15, 2007 3:20 pm
So Bart, can you clear this up? What is going on? Taking ALL electronics out and going through them seems excessive.

PTravel Nov 15, 2007 3:22 pm
Originally Posted by Green Dragon (Post 8736877)
I like the baggie idea - help me organize stuff, too. One baggie for all my phone accessories, one for all my still camera stuff, one for all my video stuff, etc. That way they don't roll around, won't get handled/lost by TSOs, won't touch dirty bins. I love the gallon bag of electronics story!
Unfortunately, it wouldn't work for me -- my equipment is carefully stowed in a variety of compartments in my camera backpack and my large, TUMI rollaboard.

bocastephen Nov 15, 2007 3:23 pm
Sounds like it's another round of "let's punish the passengers for our incompetence" at the TSA :mad::mad::mad:

I wonder if the Committee will quiz Herr Kip on that one - why are passengers being punished by the TSA's for its operational failures?

Spiff Nov 15, 2007 3:25 pm
Time for civil disobedience on this one.

Show up early, refuse to remove anything except the laptop. A screener then has to tie themselves up with you and the lines will really back up then, which will make the TSA look even stupider and more inefficient than they already are.

Screw them. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.

muddy Nov 15, 2007 3:27 pm
hmmm ... so if the security lines at MIA E were backed up to the airport hotel before all this ... the line must start this week at ... South Beach or so .... :D

muddy Nov 15, 2007 3:28 pm
Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 8737077)
Time for civil disobedience on this one.

Show up early, refuse to remove anything except the laptop. A screener then has to tie themselves up with you and the lines will really back up then, which will make the TSA look even stupider and more inefficient than they already are.

Screw them. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.
have a few hundred bucks (maybe more) ready for the fine though ... not arguing with you Spiff ... just saying ...

bocastephen Nov 15, 2007 3:30 pm
Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 8737077)
Time for civil disobedience on this one.

Show up early, refuse to remove anything except the laptop. A screener then has to tie themselves up with you and the lines will really back up then, which will make the TSA look even stupider and more inefficient than they already are.

Screw them. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.
They haven't been able to find the Kippy Bag full of bottles and tubes I bury in the middle of my luggage - not once. I doubt they will find the iPod and cell phone I'll be burying right along side it.

magiciansampras Nov 15, 2007 3:32 pm
Not the case at CMH TSA checkpoint a couple of hours ago. YMMV.

Spiff Nov 15, 2007 3:37 pm
Originally Posted by muddy (Post 8737092)
have a few hundred bucks (maybe more) ready for the fine though ... not arguing with you Spiff ... just saying ...
They cannot assess a fine on this one.

"So sorry. I forgot." Give them the cold look of death while saying that.

bzbdewd Nov 15, 2007 3:39 pm
Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN (Post 8736983)
I'm at IAD now... it was not a rogue screener but the entire security point staff repeating the mantra: "all electronics out, new policy as of today... for your safety we need all electronics out."

I overheard idiotic stuff like "does it have a transistor" spew out of the TSA staff and "does electricity or battery power run through it...
Great....... :mad: we've seen this a few times here and there http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=721659 and it is a WICKED pain when you have to go through it. We have 2 carryons containing nothing but electronics - computers & camera equipment. When we have had to do it there are several issues: 1) keeping an eye on all of it while you are going through the usual BS is impossible. 2) keeping the TSO's from manhandling it (we had one drop a hard drive into a bin like a pair of old shoes) and 3) to repack it all properly takes a long time.
All in all it is a bonafide PITA. :td:

mmartin4600 Nov 15, 2007 3:43 pm
Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 8737077)
Screw them. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.
Not the horse Spiff. Leave the poor horse out of it. :)

Spiff Nov 15, 2007 3:45 pm
Originally Posted by mmartin4600 (Post 8737181)
Not the horse Spiff. Leave the poor horse out of it. :)
I suppose you're right. :)

Screw 'em twice then. ;)

kkjay77 Nov 15, 2007 3:47 pm
Originally Posted by KleineFrau (Post 8736778)
Maybe that's exactly what they are doing: providing an option so ridiculous that we would be HAPPY to have the secondary if offered over that.

Sort of like saying, "I can chop off your arm or pinch your butt. Your pick, but I have to do one or the other." The person making such a generous offer knows which one you are likely to pick. The person making the offer likely made the alternate choice so stupid so as to force you into letting him do exactly what he wanted to do in the first place, which was to pinch your butt.
They will know that I'm unhappy with this and I will ask for complaint form.

ralfp Nov 15, 2007 3:49 pm
Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN (Post 8735497)
Just checked into CVG and TSA informs us all that we are required to take out all electronics now... not just laptops, but cables, pdas, etc. I carry about 30 separate pieces of "electronic" equipment.
Since when are cables electronics?


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