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camerawork Nov 15, 2007 1:38 pm

Once again, the time is more than suspicious. One would almost think that they want a backlash to bring about change (Bart?). Still, I'm glad to not be flying for work until the week after Thanksgiving. With two of us flying with rolling camera cases filled with lenses & bodies plus small backpacks with Powerbooks, we should be tying up the line for 10 minutes each.
I've broached the question before and I'll ask it again. How come when our bags go through the x-ray at CDG, LGW, or LHR they say nice cameras but here call out "bag check"?

KleineFrau Nov 15, 2007 1:45 pm

With my camera bag FULL of expensive equipment, I am just so happy to empty the entire thing into a bin to let very costly lenses roll around. :mad:

whirledtraveler Nov 15, 2007 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN (Post 8735497)
Just checked into CVG and TSA informs us all that we are required to take out all electronics now... not just laptops, but cables, pdas, etc. I carry about 30 separate pieces of "electronic" equipment.

I took out all that I thought I had, but forgot a bluetooth earpiece and some cables... had to pull out, hand inspect and rescan... then had to repack all that crap.

This is at Terminal 2 at CVG... can't wait to see this at ORD or a large airport... here come 3 hour scan lines again!

The TSA will be repacking my bags.

samftla Nov 15, 2007 1:48 pm

TSA and Bad PR hahahahhaa
 
wait until the lines get ridiculously long again, then the TSA will realize they have bad PR on their hands.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahaha does anyone really think the TSA cares about bad PR? If that were really the case then they would have cleaned up their act along time ago. The entire screening program is a joke and these are the people that are supposed to be protecting us. God help us all.

jonesing Nov 15, 2007 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by camerawork (Post 8736443)
I've broached the question before and I'll ask it again. How come when our bags go through the x-ray at CDG, LGW, or LHR they say nice cameras but here call out "bag check"?

Because folks over the pond exhibit manners (even the French!), professionalism, common sense. Plus, photography is a legitimate profession.

Here suspicion is SOP. And photography? Well unless you work for Penthouse, you're employing the tools of terrorism. :rolleyes:

We were planning on flying out to see my folks for Christmas vacation but earlier this week MrsJ announced that she didn't want to deal with airport, TSA and rental car hassles so we're going to drive. Great! I have a legitimate excuse for buying that new GPS unit on Black Friday! :D Our SUV has navi but I wanted to compare how the portable ones work for use in my car. A 4-state trip ought to be a good test :p

sbrower Nov 15, 2007 1:58 pm

One obviously (for safety of the item) needs to put each item into a separate bin, just like you do with the laptop. That means that I will need: 1) laptop; 2) earphones; 3) video patch cable; 4) blackberry; 5) PowerPoint remote control; 6) memory stick; 7) plane power; 8) ac power; 9) blackberry charger; 10) shoes; 11) liquids. Then I will need space on the belt for my laptop case and for my suitcase. They better buy more bins.

gj83 Nov 15, 2007 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 8736571)
One obviously (for safety of the item) needs to put each item into a separate bin, just like you do with the laptop. That means that I will need: 1) laptop; 2) earphones; 3) video patch cable; 4) blackberry; 5) PowerPoint remote control; 6) memory stick; 7) plane power; 8) ac power; 9) blackberry charger; 10) shoes; 11) liquids. Then I will need space on the belt for my laptop case and for my suitcase. They better buy more bins.

The bin running TSO will surely get a workout!

KleineFrau Nov 15, 2007 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 8736606)
The bin running TSO will surely get a workout!

The more amusing part (depending on how you look at it, I guess) will be the influx of complaints regarding expensive things getting broken at the checkpoint.

bocastephen Nov 15, 2007 2:11 pm

Has anyone confirmed this has occurred anywhere except CVG?

Sounds like another rogue screener, and the OP should have called a supervisor or manager over...

Having said that, the TSA is getting horrible press this week with one story after the other going on and on about their failures, then you have the chief idiot being grilled (not effectively enough, mind you) by Congress.

Rather than take accountability for their own incompetence and failure, they will just figure out how to stick it to the passenger and make our lives worse.

Time to get rid of this agency. TSA be gone!!

kkjay77 Nov 15, 2007 2:21 pm

OMG...

I'll carry MacBook Pro, Wireless Mighty Mouse, iPhone, unlocked GSM phone, PSP, Canon 1D Mk3, Flash, Samsung NV10 p&s digital camera, Bose QC2, Memory Card Reader, Portable Storage Unit, and bunch of cables next week for my vacation/MR. If they want me to take out all of those, then well... It will take most of the table leading to x-ray machine.

I'll take secondary as well. I'm not taking all of those out and repacking them.

PTravel Nov 15, 2007 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by KleineFrau (Post 8736490)
With my camera bag FULL of expensive equipment, I am just so happy to empty the entire thing into a bin to let very costly lenses roll around. :mad:

Exactly. I'm also not about to put my digital camera equipment in a dusty, dirty bin. Aside from the electronics issues, I hold these cameras up to my eye and god only knows what's been in those bins.

KleineFrau Nov 15, 2007 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by kkjay77 (Post 8736700)
I'll take secondary as well. I'm not taking all of those out and repacking them.

Maybe that's exactly what they are doing: providing an option so ridiculous that we would be HAPPY to have the secondary if offered over that.

Sort of like saying, "I can chop off your arm or pinch your butt. Your pick, but I have to do one or the other." The person making such a generous offer knows which one you are likely to pick. The person making the offer likely made the alternate choice so stupid so as to force you into letting him do exactly what he wanted to do in the first place, which was to pinch your butt.

jonesing Nov 15, 2007 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 8736775)
Exactly. I'm also not about to put my digital camera equipment in a dusty, dirty bin. Aside from the electronics issues, I hold these cameras up to my eye and god only knows what's been in those bins.

Aww c'mon now!

I swear I scrape the cow patties off my shoes before walking on the nice shiny airport floor. Honest!! :D

KleineFrau Nov 15, 2007 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 8736775)
Exactly. I'm also not about to put my digital camera equipment in a dusty, dirty bin. Aside from the electronics issues, I hold these cameras up to my eye and god only knows what's been in those bins.

And that's IF your lenses don't break with being rolled around.

I really got unhappy at Houston a few weeks ago when an agent pulled my equipment bag from the belt and started pawing through it, picking up one of the cameras, etc.

I don't know what good that would have done her. Her search was just a random, haphazard poking-through. Had I wanted to smuggle anything in, I could have.

Green Dragon Nov 15, 2007 2:54 pm

I like the baggie idea - help me organize stuff, too. One baggie for all my phone accessories, one for all my still camera stuff, one for all my video stuff, etc. That way they don't roll around, won't get handled/lost by TSOs, won't touch dirty bins. I love the gallon bag of electronics story!


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