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Spiff Nov 15, 2007 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 8737211)
Since when are cables electronics?

They carry electrons, don't they? :rolleyes:

(that's the kind of logic that Idiot Boy Hawley would use to train his minions.)

bzbdewd Nov 15, 2007 3:54 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 8737211)
Since when are cables electronics?

Since the TSA labeled cheesecake a liquid silly!

Spiff Nov 15, 2007 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by bzbdewd (Post 8737243)
Since the TSA labeled cheesecake a liquid silly!

That's a "semiconductor" too, Comrade!

SDF_Traveler Nov 15, 2007 3:58 pm


Originally Posted by PDXUAFAN (Post 8736983)
I'm at IAD now... it was not a rogue screener but the entire security point staff repeating the mantra: "all electronics out, new policy as of today... for your safety we need all electronics out."

I overheard idiotic stuff like "does it have a transistor" spew out of the TSA staff and "does electricity or battery power run through it...

What if every item in a bag falls under the electronics category?

I don't have any travel until after thanksgiving, but if I'm told all electronics must come out, I'll just put my bag on the belt (minus laptop) and let them sort through it.

I often travel with a large amount of computer equipment, network devices, storage devices, CAT5 cables, plugs/adapters, numerous USB devices, PDAs, mobile phones, Voice over WiFi phones, various battery chargers, photography equipment, etc.

What do they want me to do, send 25 bins through? :D

sbrower Nov 15, 2007 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 8737211)
Since when are cables electronics?

They are "electronics" because, what they really mean is "anything that could be used as a component in an IED."

(NOTE: I don't agree with the idiocy. But that doesn't mean that I can't explain some of their thinking.)

sbrower Nov 15, 2007 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 8737266)
What do they want me to do, send 25 bins through? :D

Sorry, that's what you get for coming late and not reading everything. See Post #21.

sbrower Nov 15, 2007 4:04 pm

It doesn't yet announce the new policy, but here is a new IED webpage that the TSA apparently created today (11/15/07):

http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/...itigation.shtm

bzbdewd Nov 15, 2007 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler (Post 8737266)
What if every item in a bag falls under the electronics category?

I don't have any travel until after thanksgiving, but if I'm told all electronics must come out, I'll just put my bag on the belt (minus laptop) and let them sort through it.

I often travel with a large amount of computer equipment, network devices, storage devices, CAT5 cables, plugs/adapters, numerous USB devices, PDAs, mobile phones, Voice over WiFi phones, various battery chargers, photography equipment, etc.

What do they want me to do, send 25 bins through? :D

Just from our experience I would not recommend this if your equipment is valuable. The TSO we dealt with was royally p*ssed that we didn't "follow directions" and was very rough with everything - and would not let us unpack the bag ourselves at that point....

Points Scrounger Nov 15, 2007 4:05 pm

I suppose we should've seen this coming - let's see how long the checkpoints can sustain picking over every single iPod, cell phone etc. I don't believe there are the (on site) staff/resources for this to work for more than a few days without horror stories emerging that'll make them look even worse ... which is why they pulled back from doing it before. :rolleyes:

As usual, the desk jockeys @ HQ come up with the brilliant ideas that the frontline workers get to deal with.

bzbdewd Nov 15, 2007 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 8737303)
It doesn't yet announce the new policy, but here is a new IED webpage that the TSA apparently created today (11/15/07):

http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/...itigation.shtm

Too bad Kip Hawley's Mom didn't use an IUD.......

SDF_Traveler Nov 15, 2007 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 8737277)
Sorry, that's what you get for coming late and not reading everything. See Post #21.

That's only 11 bins :p

bzbdewd Nov 15, 2007 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 8737309)
I suppose we should've seen this coming - let's see how long the checkpoints can sustain picking over every single iPod, cell phone etc. I don't believe there are the (on site) staff/resources for this to work for more than a few days without horror stories emerging that'll make them look even worse ... which is why they pulled back from doing it before. :rolleyes:

As usual, the desk jockeys @ HQ come up with the brilliant ideas that the frontline workers get to deal with.

Wonder if there is an Electronics Kippie bag in our future.......... what gallon sized maybe?? All kidding aside I am worried about that very thing. For example - 1 laptop and one gallon sized bag for electronics.........

MrAndy1369 Nov 15, 2007 4:15 pm

Waiting for Bart....

Spiff Nov 15, 2007 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by bzbdewd (Post 8737331)
Wonder if there is an Electronics Kippie bag in our future.......... what gallon sized maybe?? All kidding aside I am worried about that very thing. For example - 1 laptop and one gallon sized bag for electronics.........

One bag per Administrator. Preferrably nothing breathable.

exerda Nov 15, 2007 4:22 pm

The only good thing: they're doing this idiocy leading into the massive holiday crush of fliers. That is going to really tick off a lot of Ma and Pa Kettles, making new enemies for the TSA out of all sorts who'd never had a grumble before.

Clearly, this is a dumb reaction by the TSA to the GSO finding their checkpoints to be so many sieves. :td: :mad:


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