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There are 43,000 TSOs employed by TSA; you're telling me that hatred is warranted for all 43,000 of us because of bad experiences with most likely less than 2% of them? Yes, that makes perfect sense. My ex girlfriend really did a number on me, perhaps I should hate all women too. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738875)
There are 43,000 TSOs employed by TSA; you're telling me that hatred is warranted for all 43,000 of us because of bad experiences with most likely less than 2% of them? Yes, that makes perfect sense. My ex girlfriend really did a number on me, perhaps I should hate all women too. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by bzbdewd
(Post 8738906)
Nope... not all but certainly more than a few. You said the public has an unwarranted hatred. I am saying I don't think it is unwarranted - there is a reason that so many people have a problem with the way you folks do business. It's because many of your comrades are unprofessional bullying @$$holes. Some are fine - even exceptional folks (the ones at TUS are great).... but there are others who absolutely warrant disgust.
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738917)
It is unwarranted hate if it's directed at an entire screening force. I think that's silly and some people are so caught up in their anti-TSA agenda they are willing to act in a way that is counterproductive not only to TSA but to themselves and other airline passengers.
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738816)
As of today, 11/15/07, we have not begun this procedure at Houston Hobby. Whether or not that shall change is up in the air as policy can change overnight. However, if this is a new system wide process, it makes sense given the recent bad press and fumbles. I'd wager that some of the agents who breached the airport CPs had IED components concealed in electronics that are/were not currently being screened. As a result, we now have to be more thorough and screen these items at the inconvenience of the public. Terrorists and covert agents aren't using ACME Co. gag bombs anymore, the IEDs and methods used to conceal them and their components are more sophisticated than ever. In response, so must be our screening techniques which must correlate with the latest threats. You all can't have it both ways; you want effective security screening procedures but you don't want to endure the process that comes along with it. If any of you all can think of ways to screen for IEDs and their components which cover all the threat areas (liquids, shoes, electronics, etc.) without inconveniencing you the passenger I'd love to hear it and pass it on.
The IonScan Sentinel II makes most of your agency's harassment completely unnecessary. |
Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738816)
...If any of you all can think of ways to screen for IEDs and their components which cover all the threat areas (liquids, shoes, electronics, etc.) without inconveniencing you the passenger I'd love to hear it and pass it on.
By the way - why should we be inconvenienced by your agency's incompetence? You write as if IEDs and such just became a threat this week, like liquids just became a threat when the so-called UK plot was manufactured, I mean uncovered. The bottom line is passengers will be punished for your agency's incompetence - these threats existed all this time, yet you people failed to detect the tests unless you were tipped off in advance. I doubt the test scores are going to change even with additional vigilance. No one has found the bag full of bottles and tubes hidden inside my rolling duffel since I discovered how to pack for density. A policy to inspect all electronic components is not "to protect the public", it's nothing more than a bunch of a$$ covering. It boggles my mind how Congress continues to give your agency a free pass time after time instead of ending your reign of horror and implementing real security, with real fiscal responsibility and accountable management. |
Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738838)
Yes, yes, please do that Spiff. As TSOs are paid hourly you'd only be inconveniencing yourself and fellow passengers. Way to make a potentially long and contentious process that much more long and contentious! Now, tell me exactly how that makes the TSA look stupid?
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738875)
There are 43,000 TSOs employed by TSA; you're telling me that hatred is warranted for all 43,000 of us because of bad experiences with most likely less than 2% of them? Yes, that makes perfect sense. My ex girlfriend really did a number on me, perhaps I should hate all women too. :rolleyes:
When your agency is destroyed and replaced with private security (something people don't hate, just stupid implementations of it), perhaps you'll be competent enough to be re-hired. |
Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738917)
It is unwarranted hate if it's directed at an entire screening force. I think that's silly and some people are so caught up in their anti-TSA agenda they are willing to act in a way that is counterproductive not only to TSA but to themselves and other airline passengers.
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738917)
It is unwarranted hate if it's directed at an entire screening force. I think that's silly and some people are so caught up in their anti-TSA agenda they are willing to act in a way that is counterproductive not only to TSA but to themselves and other airline passengers.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 8737530)
Reports have said the images generated (not the example on tsahouseoflies.gov) leave little to the imagination.
"You've been chosen for millimeter wave screening." "And you've been chosen to go pound sand." I'm not subjecting myself to this device. Sorry, no backscatter. No millimeter wave. My doctor gets to give the x-rays and see me naked. I get enough x-rays per year because of my condition. I am not adding to the pile. As far as the naked part...I am a very old-fashioned kinda girl. Better be a wedding ring on my finger from you (the TSA agent) before that kind of naked is going to happen. None of this "It's blurred!" nonsense. It leaves little to the imagination. In other news, I am moving out of America. Have been planning it since 2004. Leaving in the spring. If they make this nationwide, I really doubt I will be coming back for visits much. "Go to America, get felt up, radiated and seen naked! Bring back a t-shirt." |
Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
(Post 8738816)
As of today, 11/15/07, we have not begun this procedure at Houston Hobby. Whether or not that shall change is up in the air as policy can change overnight. However, if this is a new system wide process, it makes sense given the recent bad press and fumbles. I'd wager that some of the agents who breached the airport CPs had IED components concealed in electronics that are/were not currently being screened. As a result, we now have to be more thorough and screen these items at the inconvenience of the public. Terrorists and covert agents aren't using ACME Co. gag bombs anymore, the IEDs and methods used to conceal them and their components are more sophisticated than ever. In response, so must be our screening techniques which must correlate with the latest threats. You all can't have it both ways; you want effective security screening procedures but you don't want to endure the process that comes along with it. If any of you all can think of ways to screen for IEDs and their components which cover all the threat areas (liquids, shoes, electronics, etc.) without inconveniencing you the passenger I'd love to hear it and pass it on.
It's sad fact, but it would be better for all of us to be adults and face up. |
This is just absolutely ....ing pathetic.
Spiff, you want civil disobedience... we'll give it to them. One electronic item per bin. What are they gonna do? Send us to secondary? Even better! Choke the .... outta that too! When I travel tomorrow... cell phone, bluetooth headset, laptop, ipod, camera, headphones, one power adaptor for each. Jacket, shoes, & wallet. That's 15 bins. You ....ers at the TSA want to play assinine games, you got it. And just so you ....ers think you can delay things so I miss my flight, I'm showing up 4 ....ing hours before my flight just to piss you mother....ers off. |
Originally Posted by Peetah
(Post 8739073)
This is just absolutely ....ing pathetic.
Spiff, you want civil disobedience... we'll give it to them. One electronic item per bin. What are they gonna do? Send you to secondary? Even better! Choke the .... outta that too! When I travel tomorrow... cell phone, bluetooth headset, laptop, ipod, camera, headphones, one power adaptor for each. Jacket, shoes, & wallet. That's 15 bins. You ....ers at the TSA want to play assinine games, you got it. And just so you ....ers think you can delay me to miss my flight, I'm showing up 4 ....ing hours before my flight just to piss you mother....ers off. Let's take the fight to them! UP YOURS, Kip! Your HIDE is the only thing that is acceptable from the TSA in terms of an apology. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 8739078)
^ ^
Let's take the fight to them! UP YOURS, Kip! Your HIDE is the only thing that is acceptable from the TSA in terms of an apology. Why do I get the feeling I am about to see a report about some guy whose internet handle is "Spiff" on the 6 o'clock news? :) God, I hope so! Fight the good fight! |
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