Your unwillingness to directly answer Spiff's question demonstrates you're not here for a discussion. People answered you on-point, you have failed to do so.

If you're proud of that, then so be it. But don't wonder why people don't engage in conversation with you.

I did answer, and I answered using the prevalent logic of the forum, what more could you ask for.

Less02, give me a break, did you not see I made an attempt to respond to every single post directed at me? You guys don't even try to hide your biases.

Uh huh. ;)

Should we talk about the effectiveness of screening now? :)

Self-respect, my friend..

You can have the last word if you wish, but your agency is responsible for equipment procurement. The "general public" I am sure would concur with the acquisition of screening equipment that will allow them to forgo some of the screening practices currently in place.

FYI - I do not own a pet rock, but still have not experienced an incidence of terrorism aboard any of my flights. Coincidence, perhaps? Or the stellar job performed by 43,000 dedicated federal screeners who are the "last line of defense?"

Yes, and I wish the agency would procure only the best technology available and it seems to be on the path of improvement as far as that is concerned. Some of the new technology you may like (X-rays that detect explosives and dedicated liquid screening is on the way so the LGA rule may be lifted eventually) and some you may not like (body imaging).

I must have missed the answer.

"It happened on their watch?" Is that what you're claiming to be an answer?

Argenbright was in no way responsible for 9/11. Pilots who opened doors were. People who cooperated with terrorists were. Airport security was in no way responsible for the events that day.

Sorry, body imaging is hardly acceptable to all passengers and I doubt the TSA is willing to give any written assurances of its safety.

Whole body imaging, for safety and privacy reasons is DOA for me and for a lot of other people too. It is unnecessary when one uses the WTMD in conjunction with ETP.

Screening is a deterrent for terrorism, just like the police force is a deterrent for crime. Will it happen anyways? Most likely. Can we lower the risk with better and more thorough procedures, definitely. I know you don't like ID checks, the electronics checks, shoe checks, LGA rule and so on, but they are necessary to lower the risk of an incident.

Some feel we don't need screening at all, and others feel it needs to be more thorough. All of them seem to hate the TSA. The job is finding a balance that shall never be because it will always be too much or never enough.

Okie dokie.

It's in the pilot phase now and supposedly more people are willing to submit to that technology than receive the standard pat down.

They are in no way necessary and those responsible for these disgusting policies should be severely punished.

That is exactly why the TSA should not exist. The airlines should be able to provide as much or as little screening as they want and passengers should be able to make their travel choices on that and other bases.

People should not have to choose one evil or the other.

Pat-down harassment and whole body imaging are completely unnecessary if one passes the WTMD and ETP.

For all of your grandstanding posts, you don't want the TSA to be dissolved. If you did, you'd just cease to fly along with other rabid Anti-TSA passengers. If the loss of revenue was large enough, the Airlines would complain and then change would be made. Until then, the TSA is here to stay because your hate of the TSA is not strong enough to deter you from flying. It's just a bunch of hot air because someone you feel is inferior to you has your life in their hands for a few seconds.

BS.

I would happily fly with no TSA. I did so for many years and would be absolutely delighted to do so again.

I'm going to spell this out for you, okay.....

You + Other Pax say - We don't want TSA

But

You + Other Pax keep flying

Airlines say - Who cares, we still have their money.

BUT IF

You + Other Pax say - We don't want TSA and we won't fly with them around!

Airlines - :eek:

TSA = Dissolved or reorganized.

But of course that won't happen because TSA does nothing but inconvenience you so there's no real reason not to fly and all of this hemming and hawing is just you blowing off steam.