TSA slowdown / sickout
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Unfunded federal workers are quickly approaching their second "no pay" payday. That may be the breaking point for a growing number of screeners and other federal workers. In my daily activities I'm seeing an increasing number of federal workers reaching out to my organization for what help we can offer which is limited. I'm trying to keep a feel of the mood with the group I'm around and so far the grumbling is fairly muted, however, I can sense tension mounting.
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For the major airports, I would wager a vast majority of TSA employees arrive by public transport. That means on Feb 1 they will be expected to put down $100-$200 cash for a bus or train pass for the month. Most of these folks are commuting for "free" because they bought a January pass in December, when they expected the shutdown to end quickly.

Anyway as to the impact I flew out of HOU on Saturday and while the regular line looked a bit longer than usual, there was nothing crazy. In Pre the logjam was at the ID checker, not the xray belt.
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Sadly it seems to me that such action might be needed to break this impasse.
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That is exactly the purpose of a strike / slow down / work-to-rule or whatever one wants to call it.
The more people who know how to be heard and have the means to do so are inconvenienced, the more pressure they can bring.
The more people who know how to be heard and have the means to do so are inconvenienced, the more pressure they can bring.
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While I would not support an illegal walk out if TSA rank and file walked off the job nation wide I think a resolution to this issue would be found quickly. The simple act of bringing the nations commercial aviation passenger service to a near halt would force the hands of the various players to act.
Sadly it seems to me that such action might be needed to break this impasse.
Sadly it seems to me that such action might be needed to break this impasse.
45+% TSA absentee rates should do it.
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A veto-overriding group of Senators and a majority of the House would quickly come together to pass on their own what needed to pass to get things working again, if airports across the country were shutdown by TSAs sky-high absentee rate or if huge volumes of passengers and airlines threw a massive tantrum about the situation. Even Senators want to get home without being stuck in extra-slow security screening lines.
45+% TSA absentee rates should do it.
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Folks,
There is a very fine line between what is appropriate for the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum and what belongs in OMNI/PR, and it has just been crossed again.
Please confine your future comments to the TSA slowdown / sickout and travel security. Discussion of the reasons for the US government partial shutdown and the politics behind it belong in Omniland.
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There is a very fine line between what is appropriate for the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum and what belongs in OMNI/PR, and it has just been crossed again.
Please confine your future comments to the TSA slowdown / sickout and travel security. Discussion of the reasons for the US government partial shutdown and the politics behind it belong in Omniland.
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All political posts will be summarily deleted. Repeat offenders will be subject to discipline without further notice.
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While I would not support an illegal walk out if TSA rank and file walked off the job nation wide I think a resolution to this issue would be found quickly. The simple act of bringing the nations commercial aviation passenger service to a near halt would force the hands of the various players to act.
Sadly it seems to me that such action might be needed to break this impasse.
Sadly it seems to me that such action might be needed to break this impasse.
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I think that many fear they could be fired if they walked off the job. I say that's nonsense because the government, which claims TSA is vitally necessary to protect air travel, can't fire them - if they do so, that puts the lie to their claims about TSA being the last (or first depending on who one reads) line of defense against terrorism in the skies.
Is anyone going to argue that TSA workers are more important or irreplaceable than ATC?
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edit to add:
Will TSA and/or other federal employees stage a stop work action? Who knows, but if they do it's clear they could have punitive action taken against them. But, would that happen in this situation? I'm not so sure it would.
Last edited by Boggie Dog; Jan 23, 2019 at 9:44 pm
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The government is NOT going to fire 75,000 individuals; it's just not going to happen especially as the nation has come to realize the amount of suffering the shutdown is causing individuals and families.
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Except it wouldn't be 75k workers, it would more along the lines of 30k, maybe 40k if they really amp up the organization. The government would have the option to fire every single one of them, as long as they could prove the individual was participating as part of an organized walk out/slow down/stoppage. There are many people that would ignore such pleas/organization - much more than I think the people calling for a "strike/work stoppage" realize. There is ample precedent for the firing of those individuals that take part, and I do not get the sense that the sitting administration is in any mood to tolerate such an event very well. There are temporary options available to the Executive branch, and I am not so certain that a strike will bode well for the Union in a legal sense (if they are a part of the organizing and or striking).


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