TSA is starting that RealID stuff again...
Aug 30, 2019, 3:34 pm
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Mrs B was very pleased to received a DMV letter yesterday to renew her CDL online or by mail. Neither of us plans to visit a California DMV office anytime soon for Real ID or any other reason. Our GE and passport cards will serve just fine though with Clear we rarely have to produce any ID.
Aug 30, 2019, 5:08 pm
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I don't look forward to getting on a flight from PHX to DEN and having a TDC stand here and go through every page of my passport when the information they need is at the beginning of the passport, but I have never handed my passport to a TDC and not had them flip through the pages and even make a comment.
Aug 30, 2019, 5:46 pm
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Papers Please has the best coverage I've seen anywhere about REAL ID in detail and without government BS: https://papersplease.org/wp/category/real-id/
Aug 30, 2019, 8:54 pm
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I don't look forward to getting on a flight from PHX to DEN and having a TDC stand here and go through every page of my passport when the information they need is at the beginning of the passport, but I have never handed my passport to a TDC and not had them flip through the pages and even make a comment.
Aug 31, 2019, 10:28 am
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I don't look forward to getting on a flight from PHX to DEN and having a TDC stand here and go through every page of my passport when the information they need is at the beginning of the passport, but I have never handed my passport to a TDC and not had them flip through the pages and even make a comment.
Sep 15, 2019, 1:12 pm
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A tweet showed up in my TL from a women who is very knowledgeable, well read and well versed in all things politics. She has just read of this requirement through a WSJ article on line. It's going to be so much fun if DHS actually tries to implement this.
Sep 17, 2019, 7:07 am
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Current signage and online information from DHS and TSA indicate that October of 2020 is still the active target date. One thing to keep in mind, is that even if the passenger does not have a RealID complaint ID, there are ways that TSA can screen the individual and still allow access. The requirements angle, is different, but most folks have the things needed to satisfy the RealID standards (most, not all). Hopefully, things will go off without a hitch, and we will move forward with this. DHS has had the mandate forever, but they have been putting it off over and over for a decade or so now. I hope they make a decision to go one way or the other.
Sep 17, 2019, 8:06 am
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Current signage and online information from DHS and TSA indicate that October of 2020 is still the active target date. One thing to keep in mind, is that even if the passenger does not have a RealID complaint ID, there are ways that TSA can screen the individual and still allow access. The requirements angle, is different, but most folks have the things needed to satisfy the RealID standards (most, not all). Hopefully, things will go off without a hitch, and we will move forward with this. DHS has had the mandate forever, but they have been putting it off over and over for a decade or so now. I hope they make a decision to go one way or the other.
I certainly would not use it as a routine means of travel.
Sep 17, 2019, 8:25 am
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The language used, not only by DHS, but by other government agencies, does not suggest that the alternative means route will still be available. Besides, depending on the particular checkpoint, time of day, and what else is going on, the ID verification process can take a long time, something most would want to avoid.
I certainly would not use it as a routine means of travel.
I certainly would not use it as a routine means of travel.
Courts have ruled that ID is not required for air travel. I think we might see another case that will go all the way to the Supreme Court challenging Real ID if government pushes back on this. All that is needed at this point is standing which TSA might well provide.
Sep 17, 2019, 8:39 am
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It's going nowhere. TSA does not have a vested interest in RealID, only in sticking to enforcement if it comes to pass.
Sep 17, 2019, 9:10 am
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Current signage and online information from DHS and TSA indicate that October of 2020 is still the active target date. One thing to keep in mind, is that even if the passenger does not have a RealID complaint ID, there are ways that TSA can screen the individual and still allow access. The requirements angle, is different, but most folks have the things needed to satisfy the RealID standards (most, not all). Hopefully, things will go off without a hitch, and we will move forward with this. DHS has had the mandate forever, but they have been putting it off over and over for a decade or so now. I hope they make a decision to go one way or the other.
The language used, not only by DHS, but by other government agencies, does not suggest that the alternative means route will still be available. Besides, depending on the particular checkpoint, time of day, and what else is going on, the ID verification process can take a long time, something most would want to avoid.
I certainly would not use it as a routine means of travel.
I certainly would not use it as a routine means of travel.
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Sep 17, 2019, 9:39 am
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I'm not so certain. Real ID was passed into law after the court ruling. While TSA might not have a vested interest if no alternative is offered then a question of the constitutionality of Real ID is created.
Sep 17, 2019, 10:03 am
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I have no such hope, but then I've often been called hopeless by those who know me best.
Sep 17, 2019, 10:05 am
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Senate chairman worried ‘Real ID’ will shock air travelers
Will this be the attention that will be the start of delaying Real ID?
In California, Department of Motor Vehicles officials initially required just one proof of residency for the REAL ID; the federal law demanded two, said Anita Gore, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Motor Vehicles.
Will TSA accept California DL as being compliant? I don't see how CA DL could be accepted. If they are isn't the whole concept of Real ID just a sham?
A post-9/11 law designed to keep people from using fake IDs to board airplanes is one year away from taking effect, but the chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee worries that it’s destined to create “Y2K-type disruption” at the nation’s airports in October 2020.
In California, Department of Motor Vehicles officials initially required just one proof of residency for the REAL ID; the federal law demanded two, said Anita Gore, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Motor Vehicles.