Preclearance Expansion [merged threads]
Nov 5, 2016 | 8:06 am
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It may now even be over 80 flights a day at some times of the year. For a country that has c. the population of the greater Green Bay airport "metro" area (100k+200k people), it has a lot of flights during the summer at least.
Nov 5, 2016 | 8:15 am
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Today is the slowest day of the week and outside high season and there are eleven flights to the US. Peak days in the summer of 2017 will probably reach more than 30 US-bound flights per day.
This traffic is also very concentrated within the day. The peak flow of US-bound passengers probably only compares to the major hubs in Europe. If the CBP wants a preclearance facility it would need to be staffed very well.
Nov 5, 2016 | 8:28 am
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I'm seeing a bit over 300,000 as of 2013. Seem to remember around 200,000 or so in the '70's/80's.
Nov 5, 2016 | 8:29 am
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Today is the slowest day of the week and outside high season and there are eleven flights to the US. Peak days in the summer of 2017 will probably reach more than 30 US-bound flights per day.
This traffic is also very concentrated within the day. The peak flow of US-bound passengers probably only compares to the major hubs in Europe. If the CBP wants a preclearance facility it would need to be staffed very well.
This traffic is also very concentrated within the day. The peak flow of US-bound passengers probably only compares to the major hubs in Europe. If the CBP wants a preclearance facility it would need to be staffed very well.
US CBP Preclearance will force an increase in the MCT to even transit the airport. And it would also force a worse check-in cut-off time at KEF.
This stuff is done to benefit the US DHS and governments (government figures in brown-nose mode), not passengers in the main.
Nov 5, 2016 | 8:39 am
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And how many flights from KEF to the EU/EEA?
US CBP Preclearance will force an increase in the MCT to even transit the airport. And it would also force a worse check-in cut-off time at KEF.
This stuff is done to benefit the US DHS and governments (government figures in brown-nose mode), not passengers in the main.
US CBP Preclearance will force an increase in the MCT to even transit the airport. And it would also force a worse check-in cut-off time at KEF.
This stuff is done to benefit the US DHS and governments (government figures in brown-nose mode), not passengers in the main.
Except for a few flights to Canada, every other flight from the airport is to the EU/EEA. Today I count 35 EU/EEA flights. Increasing connection times in KEF kills the business model that the local airlines are based on so I don't see it happening. Icelandic authorities seem interested but I don't think they have quite thought this through.
The Icelandic government does have a long history of sucking up to America's every whim so maybe those interests will come out on top but I hope not.
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Nov 5, 2016 | 8:54 am
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Yup, KEF sounds extremely ambitious to me. Tiny non-Schengen departure lounge, already bursting at peak times. Many US-bound flights taking off at the same time. Almost exclusively connecting passengers on tight connections.
Nov 5, 2016 | 3:10 pm
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It's true that it's bursting at the seams and there is a pent-up need for a huge expansion just to comfortably accommodate current passenger numbers. That makes this preclearance talk even stranger because it would be adding massive expense on top of what is already needed.
Nov 5, 2016 | 11:17 pm
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I would personally love to see this at PTY. As it is, pax for all US-bound flights already have to undergo an additional security screening at the gate and are herded into a cramped and secluded boarding area. Even as GE/TSA-Pre, my family and I have misconnected in IAH a few times because of CBP delays.
Aside from a comment about waiting an hour in a sterile area prior to departure, I don't see a lot of complaints about pre-clearance on this FT board, aside from the same general rudeness we see at any point of entry.
Aside from a comment about waiting an hour in a sterile area prior to departure, I don't see a lot of complaints about pre-clearance on this FT board, aside from the same general rudeness we see at any point of entry.
Nov 6, 2016 | 2:47 am
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Haha, don't see that happening at KEF ever.
In fact preclearance for major transit airports in general seems a bad idea - it only really makes sense for places where most passengers are originating. Maybe they only looked at raw flight numbers and never bothered to think about how many people are connecting.
In fact preclearance for major transit airports in general seems a bad idea - it only really makes sense for places where most passengers are originating. Maybe they only looked at raw flight numbers and never bothered to think about how many people are connecting.
Nov 6, 2016 | 8:37 am
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lounge -- is exactly the problem with this idea. Add onto that the problems caused by passengers connecting to flights going to the US at these airports (see previous post).
Nov 6, 2016 | 10:58 am
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I would personally love to see this at PTY. As it is, pax for all US-bound flights already have to undergo an additional security screening at the gate and are herded into a cramped and secluded boarding area. Even as GE/TSA-Pre, my family and I have misconnected in IAH a few times because of CBP delays.
Aside from a comment about waiting an hour in a sterile area prior to departure, I don't see a lot of complaints about pre-clearance on this FT board, aside from the same general rudeness we see at any point of entry.
Aside from a comment about waiting an hour in a sterile area prior to departure, I don't see a lot of complaints about pre-clearance on this FT board, aside from the same general rudeness we see at any point of entry.
Nov 6, 2016 | 1:08 pm
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I've used CBP Preclearance a lot -- and I mainly dislike it as a passenger. For long-haul flights involving transit at bunched up times of the day for flights, it's mostly a degradation of the travel experience for me.
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Nov 8, 2016 | 11:21 am
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I see that in the list there are both MXP and FCO.
I find it extremely unlikely that two airports in Italy would get the CBP facilities, and considering AZ has abandoned MXP I see it very unlikely that if one will come to Italy it will be in Milan. I wonder if it would be enough to convince SQ to come back, and EK to stay.
I find it extremely unlikely that two airports in Italy would get the CBP facilities, and considering AZ has abandoned MXP I see it very unlikely that if one will come to Italy it will be in Milan. I wonder if it would be enough to convince SQ to come back, and EK to stay.