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-   Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate-687/)
-   -   SOP discussion (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate/1024410-sop-discussion.html)

GUWonder Dec 6, 2009 9:18 pm
Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
Without a doubt.

So will the TSA use this moment of American-friendly transparency as an item to further its agenda to unionize, or will the TSA have to settle for just unloading whatever arsenal it can at some scapegoat(s)?

GUWonder Dec 6, 2009 9:19 pm
Originally Posted by LoganTSO (Post 12938239)
Already on it.

Too bad everyone has gone home for the night. :td:
What do you have against transparency at night time too?

Random_Flyer Dec 6, 2009 9:19 pm
Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
Way too late.

It's already been published by the Federal Government.

It's public domain.

And it's already made its way to more than a few other websites.

Mr. Gel-pack Dec 6, 2009 9:20 pm
Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 12938258)
The TSA and its apologists have tried to eliminate the transparency necessary for a liberal representative democracy to function in the manner designed by the Founding Fathers of these United States of America. Doesn't it seem like it is too late for them to do that given it's already at http://cryptome.org/ at the following URL http://cryptome.org/tsa-screening.zip ?
Thanks, I was trying to follow this thread, and ran into the dead link in:
Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 12936106)
You da man!! I bow before your awesome research abilities.

Direct link PDF warning.

I have already saved a copy in case they decide to pull the PDF.
Too bad for TSA. Now that the terrorists can read the SOP on the internet, now they'll have to abandon all these secret procedures and reinvent themselves with some new security theatrics.

AngryMiller Dec 6, 2009 9:20 pm
Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 12938485)
Without a doubt.

So will the TSA use this moment of transparency as an item to further its effort to unionize, or will the TSA have to settle for just unloading whatever arsenal it can at some scapegoat(s)?
+1 ^ Scapegoats being served at DHS cafeterias for the next month.

LoganTSO Dec 6, 2009 9:26 pm
Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
Yes, but now it's on Cryptome, completely unredacted.

Trollkiller Dec 6, 2009 9:31 pm
Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
Direct link can be found here. http://www.rebelmodel.com/tsa/SOP_NO_SSI.pdf PDF WARNING.

I will print this out tomorrow and read it while I sit for 3 hours getting my infusion.

Merry Christmas to me, Merry Christmas to me.... :D

Anybody expecting the Black Suburbans to be waiting for them when they get up in the morning?

To any LE monitoring this thread, be forewarned I say nothing without a lawyer.

AngryMiller Dec 6, 2009 9:35 pm
Originally Posted by LoganTSO (Post 12938524)
Yes, but now it's on Cryptome, completely unredacted.
It has gone viral. The editor of that document who redacted it and didn't bother to check if the information was still recoverable bears much of the responsibility for this. The managers who allowed a redacted document like your SOP onto the web should have paid a bit better attention when it comes to document security.

Trollkiller Dec 6, 2009 9:36 pm
Originally Posted by LoganTSO (Post 12938524)
Yes, but now it's on Cryptome, completely unredacted.
Pretty sweet, the red boxes make the Super Silly Information easy to find.

Trollkiller Dec 6, 2009 9:37 pm
Be honest does this make anyone else giddy?

ND Sol Dec 6, 2009 9:42 pm
I am rather amused to think that we made the TSA work on Sunday to try to clean up a mistake. About the fastest we have seen the TSA react, but the horse is already out of the barn.

AngryMiller Dec 6, 2009 9:42 pm
Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 12938582)
Be honest does this make anyone else giddy?
I fly tomorrow afternoon. Keeping the ear to ear grin off my face will be quite hard while transiting security. This faux pas is going to cost them in that on top of being obnoxious and rude, they've become a laughingstock as well.

Trollkiller Dec 6, 2009 9:45 pm
Originally Posted by ND Sol (Post 12938612)
I am rather amused to think that we made the TSA work on Sunday to try to clean up a mistake. About the fastest we have seen the TSA react, but the horse is already out of the barn.
Out of the barn and running like hell. Yee Haw

Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 12938613)
I fly tomorrow afternoon. Keeping the ear to ear grin off my face will be quite hard while transiting security. This faux pas is going to cost them in that on top of being obnoxious and rude, they've become a laughingstock as well.
Please print out the document and sit it right on top of your bag. Just for giggles.

GUWonder Dec 6, 2009 9:46 pm
Trollkiller,

What about printing out and distributing at the airports? :D

Originally Posted by LoganTSO (Post 12938524)
Yes, but now it's on Cryptome, completely unredacted.
That is not the only place where it is located. The abused horse has gotten out of the barn and it's time to celebrate freedom, right?

If the International Society for Krishna Consciousness is free to distribute their literature to passengers at airports, are others free to distribute the TSA SOP guide to passengers at airports? :D

Trollkiller Dec 6, 2009 9:46 pm
Ok folks this excitement has kept me up past my bedtime, I have to be up in 4 hours.

Good night and God bless all you rabble rousers.


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