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That's why we have to say NO to crap like "Team SFO" and return to Argenbright-like companies with little government interference and lots of accountability requirements.
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This is an excellent time to write your elected representatives and ask them to disband the TSA once and for all:
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
http://www.senate.gov/reference/comm...t_senators.htm
https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
http://www.senate.gov/reference/comm...t_senators.htm
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It's front page (below the fold) in this morning's dead-tree edition of The Washington Post. Your quotes and credit for breaking this story are after the jump.
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Some reactions will be internal. I'm sure this morning all checkpoints are reading their new SOP revisions like "the new WTMD tests with the fake gun block of metal are now conducted 0.75 inch lower than they were yesterday."
My fear is a War on Water level knee jerk reaction issued today, like a War on Wires. "All wires larger than 36 gauge must be placed in a separate bin for visual inspection." Something that will harass every pax with a cell phone or Ipod or laptop computer charger, or a headset, which would include all FFs and almost 100% of the Kettle holiday pax.
No doubt the worst harassment will be folks in powered wheelchairs. Got to rip those wires out for inspection! As for Goalies shoes, oh the humanity. . .
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sbm12 may have been the first to blog about this document (and did a great job at that!), but wasn't it OnTheAsile's post (with the original now-defunct link to the PDF doc attached to the bidding document), in response to Phil's thread about how to word a FOIA request for this kind of information, that started this whole story? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...nt-advice.html (See post # 6, Dec. 5, 2009)
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sbm12 may have been the first to blog about this document (and did a great job at that!), but wasn't it OnTheAsile's post (with the original now-defunct link to the PDF doc attached to the bidding document), in response to Phil's thread about how to word a FOIA request for this kind of information, that started this whole story? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...nt-advice.html (See post # 6, Dec. 5, 2009)
I appreciate the sentiment and will say that, unequivocally, in every conversation I have had with anyone about the topic I have explained that the document was mentioned on FlyerTalk and that FT was my impetus to go read it. I even mention that another member actually realized the text was not redacted before I did (there is a post 2 minutes prior to mine in the FOIA request thread noting the same). At this point I've been credited with "discovering" this the same way that Columbus was credited with discovering America. It was there; I have simply raised the level of attention that it receives.
I honestly have no idea why my blog post became the tipping point for the story. Looking at the few logs I have it seems that the story was posted on news.ycombinator.com at some point on Sunday. It made it to Wired's ThreatList and BoingBoing on Sunday or early Monday as well. SlashDot picked it up on Tuesday, as did the AP, the Washington Post and the Cleveland Plain Dealer. This morning has seen a rather significant amount of traffic from a BBC News story and the Register UK.
I've had hits from over 100 countries in the past 72 hours. This story has most definitely gone global. I'm happy that I've been able to help raise the issue and bring it to the forefront. I just hope that something good comes from it. I continue to press the TSA press contacts I have and will be contacting some elected officials today in an effort to delve more into the FOIA issue that was identified yesterday.
sbm12/Wandering Aramean.
I honestly have no idea why my blog post became the tipping point for the story. Looking at the few logs I have it seems that the story was posted on news.ycombinator.com at some point on Sunday. It made it to Wired's ThreatList and BoingBoing on Sunday or early Monday as well. SlashDot picked it up on Tuesday, as did the AP, the Washington Post and the Cleveland Plain Dealer. This morning has seen a rather significant amount of traffic from a BBC News story and the Register UK.
I've had hits from over 100 countries in the past 72 hours. This story has most definitely gone global. I'm happy that I've been able to help raise the issue and bring it to the forefront. I just hope that something good comes from it. I continue to press the TSA press contacts I have and will be contacting some elected officials today in an effort to delve more into the FOIA issue that was identified yesterday.
sbm12/Wandering Aramean.
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Absolutely. As I posted in the other thread:
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
It may be that your blog posts were so much more visible than the link hidden among the many threads here. You really cast a spotlight on the issue!
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Absolutely. As I posted in the other thread:
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
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Absolutely. As I posted in the other thread:
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
I've giving credit out as much as I can (particularly since I don't actually know the other pertinent folks on this one in real life). But I'm also doing what I can to push this issue out into the public eye and draw attention to the idiocy that is the TSA.
Great job!
EDA:
Here is the BBC article. Your blog is linked on the right panel of the page.
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Scapegoats located!
AP News Article
"WASHINGTON — An Obama administration official says some Transportation Security Administration employees have been placed on administrative leave after it was discovered that sensitive guidelines about airport passenger screening were posted on the Internet.
Assistant Homeland Security secretary David Heyman has told senators a full investigation into the security lapse is under way. Heyman says the Homeland Security Department is stopping the posting of documents with sensitive security information either in full or in part on the Internet until the TSA review is complete."
Big deal. The entire agency should be put on permanent leave.
"WASHINGTON — An Obama administration official says some Transportation Security Administration employees have been placed on administrative leave after it was discovered that sensitive guidelines about airport passenger screening were posted on the Internet.
Assistant Homeland Security secretary David Heyman has told senators a full investigation into the security lapse is under way. Heyman says the Homeland Security Department is stopping the posting of documents with sensitive security information either in full or in part on the Internet until the TSA review is complete."
Big deal. The entire agency should be put on permanent leave.
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AP News Article
"WASHINGTON — An Obama administration official says some Transportation Security Administration employees have been placed on administrative leave after it was discovered that sensitive guidelines about airport passenger screening were posted on the Internet.
Assistant Homeland Security secretary David Heyman has told senators a full investigation into the security lapse is under way. Heyman says the Homeland Security Department is stopping the posting of documents with sensitive security information either in full or in part on the Internet until the TSA review is complete."
Big deal. The entire agency should be put on permanent leave.
"WASHINGTON — An Obama administration official says some Transportation Security Administration employees have been placed on administrative leave after it was discovered that sensitive guidelines about airport passenger screening were posted on the Internet.
Assistant Homeland Security secretary David Heyman has told senators a full investigation into the security lapse is under way. Heyman says the Homeland Security Department is stopping the posting of documents with sensitive security information either in full or in part on the Internet until the TSA review is complete."
Big deal. The entire agency should be put on permanent leave.
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