SOP discussion
Dec 8, 2009, 10:08 am
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For those unfamiliar with the term "PV" in this context: Boggie Dog meant TSA's blog. See The TSA Blog: TSA Response to Leaked Standard Operating Procedures, December 8, 2009
Dec 8, 2009, 10:46 am
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At the time the RFP went out, the SOP was most probably current and the SSI in it had been "redacted." Based on what the TSA has stated, the SOP has been updated since the RFP was released.
One insight is what the TSA considers to be SSI. Some of the sections in the SOP certainly don't appear to qualify, which raises doubt about other items the TSA deems SSI.
One insight is what the TSA considers to be SSI. Some of the sections in the SOP certainly don't appear to qualify, which raises doubt about other items the TSA deems SSI.
Dec 8, 2009, 10:50 am
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Everyone should doubt what the TSA smoke and mirrors machine participants claim. The TSA claims that "The version of the document that was posted was neither implemented nor issued to the workforce". That TSA claim is of course misleading.
Dec 8, 2009, 11:01 am
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http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009...operation.html
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Dec 8, 2009, 11:35 am
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This story continues to chug away on Twitter, although the TSA Blog Team only made one Tweet so far about this (or anything else).
Also, ABCNews.com has posted this:
Also, ABCNews.com has posted this:
<SNIP> Robert MacLean, a former Federal Air Marshal who was fired for revealing holes in TSA's security after the 9/11 attacks. MacLean added that TSA's assertion that the documents posted are old holds no merit. "How much in screening procedure changes in 17 months?" asked MacLean. "It's a one-dimensional process."
Dec 8, 2009, 11:57 am
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TSA's current statement should bring into question everything else they have stated over the past months.
Dec 8, 2009, 12:23 pm
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The official response I have received from my contact at the TSA is that the version posted was never implemented and there have been six implemented revisions since that time. I've asked a couple follow-up questions. We'll see how far they go or if she starts to simply ignore me at some point.
http://www.papersplease.org/wp/wp-co...tsa_id_sop.pdf
http://www.rebelmodel.com/tsa/REDACTED_SOP_NO_SSI.pdf
Compare for yourself.
Dec 8, 2009, 12:52 pm
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So there are some differences but it is quite obvious that the bulk of the content is the same. The version we see may truly have "never been approved" but that doesn't mean that it isn't close enough to be considered a substantially accurate snapshot of what was going on at that time.
The differences are only in formatting. Bad news for the TSA.
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Dec 8, 2009, 2:35 pm
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This story continues to chug away on Twitter, although the TSA Blog Team only made one Tweet so far about this (or anything else).
Also, ABCNews.com has posted this:
Also, ABCNews.com has posted this:
Dec 8, 2009, 2:45 pm
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"This shocking breach undercuts the public's confidence in the security procedures at our airports," said Senator Susan Collins, R-Me., ranking Republican member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Well then, Madame Senator, do the right thing and destroy this disgusting, un-American agency once and for all.
Well then, Madame Senator, do the right thing and destroy this disgusting, un-American agency once and for all.
Dec 8, 2009, 2:55 pm
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"This shocking breach undercuts the public's confidence in the security procedures at our airports," said Senator Susan Collins, R-Me., ranking Republican member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Well then, Madame Senator, do the right thing and destroy this disgusting, un-American agency once and for all.
Well then, Madame Senator, do the right thing and destroy this disgusting, un-American agency once and for all.
How about "three strikes and you're unemployed" as a management incentive?
The Amish are settling in Maine, so buggy whips should be easier to get, Senator.
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Dec 8, 2009, 2:57 pm
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This is the main crux of my latest follow-up question. I have been told that they will not be commenting on the content of the document but I'm pressing it as best I can, particularly considering that I'm relatively a no one to them even though my post has been credited with breaking the story by some of the bigger players out there.
http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009...operation.html
http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009...operation.html
I think I might have to find my elected officials and raise some ire at that level next. Should be fun.
Dec 8, 2009, 3:00 pm
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Could it be possible that TSA routinely prevaricates, lies, tells untruths, relies on fantasy? Yep. I caught a member of TSA management lying at MSP but let it go knowing that they weren't honest even though they had nothing to either gain or lose by being honest. That says much about what little ethics they seem to possess.
Dec 8, 2009, 3:12 pm
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I just received another "no comment" pending further review. She did acknowledge my comment in the PV post and that "We’re looking at all of the follow up questions that we’ve received to see what we can address."
I think I might have to find my elected officials and raise some ire at that level next. Should be fun.
I think I might have to find my elected officials and raise some ire at that level next. Should be fun.
I would call it checkmate.
Surely some legislator can see what TSA leadership is up to!