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Originally Posted by farnorthtrader
(Post 37399751)
I don't think I understand. I picked a random pair of nights in November in Bangkok. Can stay at the St Regis for $750 less the $250 Edit credit or roughly 25,000 ultimate rewards points, for two nights in a St Regis with breakfast and a $100 credit. That seems like a pretty good deal to me. it would otherwise be about 125,000 Bonvoy points, with no free breakfast or credit. Even setting aside the Edit extras and Bonvoy points earned, that converts UR points to Bonvoy points at a 1:5 rate. i think most would be pretty happy with that.
For Shenzhen, the Langham for two nights for 13,750 UR points. Hong Kong, (strangely) no, nothing to be found, but that doesn't make it useless, just somewhat limits it's use. Suzhou is not really an Edit/Fine Hotels and Resorts kind of market |
Originally Posted by SP03
(Post 37399804)
Everyone's definition of a "good deal" is different. Some people want something close to a free night.
Unless you meant that they would like to see at least one of the nights being free then I have actually seen 2 night stays for ~$600 (not sure if in the market they're looking for) in which case one of the nights would be covered after the $250 credit. Plus if someone uses points at 2 cpp value to cover the residual amount then there's no money out of pocket for them resulting in truly being free. |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37399876)
I don't think you're exactly going to find anything that will cost you $250-$300 total for 2 nights giving you as close to free as possible after the credit. Not even Amex FHR has that - I've seen that price for a single night in places in China giving you 1 free night after their $300 credit but not for a 2 night stay in total.
Unless you meant that they would like to see at least one of the nights being free then I have actually seen 2 night stays for ~$600 (not sure if in the market they're looking for) in which case one of the nights would be covered after the $250 credit. Plus if someone uses points at 2 cpp value to cover the residual amount then there's no money out of pocket for them resulting in truly being free. |
Originally Posted by farnorthtrader
(Post 37399751)
I don't think I understand. I picked a random pair of nights in November in Bangkok. Can stay at the St Regis for $750 less the $250 Edit credit or roughly 25,000 ultimate rewards points, for two nights in a St Regis with breakfast and a $100 credit. That seems like a pretty good deal to me. it would otherwise be about 125,000 Bonvoy points, with no free breakfast or credit. Even setting aside the Edit extras and Bonvoy points earned, that converts UR points to Bonvoy points at a 1:5 rate. i think most would be pretty happy with that.
For Shenzhen, the Langham for two nights for 13,750 UR points. Hong Kong, (strangely) no, nothing to be found, but that doesn't make it useless, just somewhat limits it's use. Suzhou is not really an Edit/Fine Hotels and Resorts kind of market For your Bangkok St Regis example, I checked Amex and it is an FHR property. Same rate ~$350 per night, but you only need to stay one night to use the $300 credit. And guaranteed 4PM checkout, while Edit is discretionary. Does Edit really not have ANY properties in Hong Kong? That seems crazy. Amex has 14 FHR properties (including the St Regis Hong Kong) and another 8 in the THC program. |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37399876)
I don't think you're exactly going to find anything that will cost you $250-$300 total for 2 nights giving you as close to free as possible after the credit. Not even Amex FHR has that - I've seen that price for a single night in places in China giving you 1 free night after their $300 credit but not for a 2 night stay in total.
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 37399904)
Hard to evaluate the "value" without knowing the other options.
For your Bangkok St Regis example, I checked Amex and it is an FHR property. Same rate ~$350 per night, but you only need to stay one night to use the $300 credit Again, what I said earlier is whether someone is happy or disappointed with this credit really depends on expectation. If you expect a nearly free hotel stay, then you’ll likely be disappointed. |
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 37399904)
Hard to evaluate the "value" without knowing the other options.
For your Bangkok St Regis example, I checked Amex and it is an FHR property. Same rate ~$350 per night, but you only need to stay one night to use the $300 credit. And guaranteed 4PM checkout, while Edit is discretionary. Does Edit really not have ANY properties in Hong Kong? That seems crazy. Amex has 14 FHR properties (including the St Regis Hong Kong) and another 8 in the THC program. I did a search for Hong Kong properties and although it's nothing closer to what FHR has, I did get 3 results - Four Seasons, island shangri-la, and upper house. |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37399932)
Not to nitpick, but I checked several dates midweek this month and next and the St Regis Bangkok is the same total price on FHR and Edit (~$380 per night). If someone is anyway going to stay for 2 nights then Edit may be a better option for booking since you can use points at 2 cpp for the cash portion above $250. Using points for FHR at 1 cpp is a bad value preposition IMO.
I did a search for Hong Kong properties and although it's nothing closer to what FHR has, I did get 3 results - Four Seasons, island shangri-la, and upper house. We all need to make our own judgments when comparing all the options. I would love to be convinced of the value of Edit (and dining), as I have always liked the CSR. Just not seeing it at the moment. |
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 37399969)
I would love to be convinced of the value of Edit (and dining), as I have always liked the CSR. Just not seeing it at the moment.
Sample dates in Chicago next month (<10 properties): $884-1553 per night. Amex FHR range was $324-1018) Berlin for March: $600/nt at 2 properties Vegas weekend in December $884-1553/nt (almost 2x more properties on Amex FHR/THC) Vegas weeknights in March: $242-1600/nt These prices are all tax-inclusive and before Chase Edit rebates. It is not so much the pricing which is consistent for high end properties. It is the lack of even mid-range options. Last time I stayed in Chicago I had a very serviceable Westin room @$200/nt. Why would I pay $1000/nt just to collect a rebate for staying at the Peninsula or FS? |
Originally Posted by goodeats21
(Post 37399969)
Maybe, though personally, I would never use UR points for hotel redemptions. They have much greater value to me for transfer to airline programs.
We all need to make our own judgments when comparing all the options. I would love to be convinced of the value of Edit (and dining), as I have always liked the CSR. Just not seeing it at the moment. I'm struggling to find much value in the Edit credit for the remainder of this year unless I want to go to Las Vegas, which I have no interest in. The benefits at Marriott properties do nothing for me as a Bonvoy Ambassador / Lifetime Titanium, as I will get all of them except the $100 credit. But as a holder of both the Brilliant and Ritz cards, I'll get that as well for a two-night stay at most Ritz-Carlton or St. Regis properties. I have found a couple of nice properties in Bangkok that I can choose between next year, but only because of the addition of the $250 IHG credit that is stackable. $500 off two nights plus the additional benefits I wouldn't qualify for otherwise makes it a great deal. If Chase doesn't renew the IHG benefit past 2026, then I really don't know if I'll find much use at all for the Edit credit. |
UR points for Hyatt Hotels during events is typically a huge value. I have gotten 4-6cpp booking reward rooms during major conferences/concerts/events ect. For typical nights, its not as big of a value. But it has its sweet spot.
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Originally Posted by AndWhatsYourPoint
(Post 37400063)
Same here. I only ever use UR points for long-haul international business class seats. I currently have two reservations for next year: one on CX at 2.6 cpp and one on JL at 3.4 cpp.
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Originally Posted by AndWhatsYourPoint
(Post 37400063)
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I'm struggling to find much value in the Edit credit for the remainder of this year unless I want to go to Las Vegas, which I have no interest in. .... |
Originally Posted by dlichterman
(Post 37398896)
Were you also looking for hotels in Seville? I got them to show up by entering "Sevilla Este" as the city.
I just booked something to use this years credit - hopefully it's a good redemption. W Algarve for 2 nights for $603, which allowed me to stack the $250 credit as well as the $100 off $600 for using the Chase Travel portal. |
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37400201)
Of course there can be more value to be had when transferring points to airlines for premium cabin awards but that requires availability to be there and locking yourself to a particular carrier and dates. The beauty of using UR points as a currency against travel payments is the versatality of being able to book for any time and place as long as there is a room/seat available for sale. So getting 2 cpp for that flexibility is a very good value IMHO.
Originally Posted by friedablass
(Post 37400201)
As I believe has already been mentioned previously, you don't need to stay during the remainder of this year to get the credit, you only need to book it this year prior to 12/31/25 (don't wait until the last day though!), but the stay can take place in 2026 any time until the end of the booking calendar.
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Originally Posted by AndWhatsYourPoint
(Post 37400063)
The benefits at Marriott properties do nothing for me as a Bonvoy Ambassador / Lifetime Titanium, as I will get all of them except the $100 credit.
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I just made a reservation for 2 nights at park MGM in Las Vegas. I called Chase travel to confirm daily breakfast credit. They actually seemed unsure if it was a benefit as they looked at the website and also saw there was no benefit for breakfast listed (at this and selected other Las Vegas hotels). They placed me on hold and called the hotel and were told there is a $100 general credit and definitely NO breakfast credit of any type. They were clearly unaware that the web site is specific about the daily breakfast credit - and did not offer any resolution beyond saying this is not a definite benefit and there was nothing else they can do.
This is probably worth about $100 over the 2 day stay for 2 people (4 breakfasts) - which is not going to break anyone with this card - but adds to the odd rollout of the new higher fee for the card and listed benefits. |
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