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Old May 17, 2017, 6:45 pm
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Overview
Many Chase cards, including Sapphire Preferred and Reserve and MileagePlus Explorer, come with three different kinds of travel protection:

Trip Delay: This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

Trip Cancellation: This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference). Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption: This is similar to Trip Cancellation, but reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because you cut your trip short for a covered reason (illness, etc.). It mostly covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Exceptions: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

No coverage on the Chase cards will pay for new expensive tickets home.

How to file a claim:
- go to http://eclaimsline.com/ , or
- call 1-888-675-1461

Guide to Benefits:
Read it! CSR - CSP

Trip Delay FAQ and experiences

This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

How long does the delay have to be? 6 hours for CSR, 12 hours for CSP and MPE, check your guide to benefits for other cards. Also kicks in if the delay is "overnight".
Are delays because of weather and mechanical problems covered? Yes.
Who is covered? Only you, your spouse, your dependent children under 22. For large meals (multiple main courses), people have been asked what portion of the meal was consumed by covered travelers.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their spouse and dependent children.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the flight that is delayed with the Chase card? Yes.
Do I have to use my Chase card to purchase hotel/meals/etc. I am hoping to have covered? No, you can use any card, or cash. Just keep your receipts.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 1 year. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
Does it cover alcohol? Recent reports indicate yes; some older reports of alcohol being denied.
Does it cover tips? Recent reports indicate yes, up to 20%; some older reports of tips being denied.
My airline is offering a voucher for a hotel, but I skipped the voucher line and booked my own hotel. Am I covered? Reports point to yes, as long as you did not actually take the airline up on their offer.
Rather than staying in a hotel, I'd rather rent a car / buy a walk-up fare on another airline. Will this be covered? Mixed reports. In general this coverage is meant for expenses incurred during a delay, not onward travel.
How do I show the reason for the delay? The coverage requires a statement from the carrier indicating the cause of the delay. If your document doesn't state the cause of the delay, it probably will not work. One possibility is to get a military excuse while at the airport; another is to screenshot the carrier's website or app if it shows the cause. You can also write after the fact to get a delay letter: United: [email protected] , Delta , American. Make sure to request that the delay letter state the cause of the delay. For other carriers contact their main customer service.
Am I covered if my flight is cancelled and I am rebooked on a later flight? Yes
Am I covered if my flight is slightly delayed and I miss my connection, causing a longer delay? Yes
Am I covered at my home airport? Maybe. This report of someone being covered after appeal for hotel in Newark when EWR flight was delayed, lives in NJ but not Newark. Guide says "You are not covered for any Covered Hazard delay that was made public or known to you prior to the departure for the Covered Trip [a period of round-trip travel (meaning departing from and eventually returning to your primary residence) that doesn’t exceed three hundred and sixty- five (365) days away from your residence to a destination other than your city of residence.]".
I was delayed on my outbound and claimed $500. Now am I delayed on my inbound. Am I covered? One report on this thread of two reimbursements for two different delay incidents on a single ticket. Chase says "per trip" on the phone, but Guide says "per ticket". So a round-trip ticket may not cover two delays, but two one-ways could. Need more data on this.

Experiences:

  • 01/2014 - Delayed in MSP overnight due to mechanical issues. ~$300 for Hotel Ivy downtown, meals, and ground transportation covered with no issues. Benefits applied to AMEX FHR. Claim processed within 1 week. [Full Report]
  • 02/2014 - Flight was cancelled due to weather; booked Amtrak with points, which was then delayed because of downed electrical wires; rented a car and drove home. Used print out from flightaware.com to show flight was cancelled, claimed non-points dollar amount for Amtrak ticket, got Chase (not insurance) to request receipts from vendors that weren't saved by OP. All was covered. Full report
  • 04/2014 - Delayed in DTW overnight due to crew member time-out. ~$400 for DTW Westin and meals covered with no issues. Claim processed within 1 week. Full Report
  • 07/2014- Delayed in MSP overnight due to weather at destination. Booked Marriott Mall of America for $120, and meals for 3 and a shirt were all covered. Recommend keeping new and old boarding passes.
  • 12/2014 - Trip delay in WAS (flight was delayed because of MX causing misconnect and overnight. Reward flight with taxes+fees on Chase card. OP + wife were covered $632 for a for a room, dinner, and taxi roundtrip from the airport. Gratuity was not reimbursed and could not convince them to after a phone call. Hotel Was $380 after tax and this was not a problem.
  • 07/2016 - Delayed in YYC overnight due to mechanical problems. Claim paid out ~$300. Full report.
  • 7/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to thunderstorms. ~$390 for hotel, uber, meals. Claim processed within a week, no issues. Full report.
  • 9/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to Harvey. ~$499 for hotel, ubereats. Claim processed in 7 business days
  • 1/2017 - $625 covered on two tickets on JetBlue award flight with taxes+fees on Chase in FLL. Missed connection due to Mx. Incl. $65 at Walgreens, r/t uber to hotel, uber home, $265 hotel, $180 meal. Tax, tip, and alcohol covered.
  • 06/2017 - $258 covered for overnight delay hotel/dinner. Did not cover $50 to pick a seat on next day's flight. Full report
  • 08/2017 - covered during ATC equipment failure leading to cancelled flight
  • 08/2017 - covered with flightaware showing delay, no direct statement from carrier. Booked dummy return flight on Southwest to 'comply' with r/t requirement.
  • 12/2017 - covered for forced overnight due to ATL "Power Outage". Entire ticket, including taxes, was paid for using Ultimate Reward points through my Reserve account. There was no credit card charge showing on my account.
  • 1/2018 - covered for $500 including hotel tips, a drink, and minibar snacks w/ no receipt (but showed credit card statement with purchases listed)
  • 1/2018 - covered rental + gas to drive to int'l gateway when feeder flight was cancelled.
  • 3/2018 - covered int'l phone calls, roaming cell phone data (submitted phone bill), storage locker, and hotel.
  • 4/2018 - covered hotel, meals/snacks, cold medicine, Uber ground transport for overnight due to weather. Award ticket with taxes/fees on CSR.
  • 5/2018 - covered $250 in hotel, uber, two meals after missing a connection in a "painless but slightly drawn out" process. Had to request a different delay letter because first one didn't state cause of delay. Total turn-around time 40 days including re-requesting delay letter.
  • 11/2018 - covered $300+ in hotel, 2 Ubers, 3 meals; did not cover seat charge or Uber home; originally booked with UR points (no CC charge)
  • 7/2019 - covered $400+ in hotel, rental car, 3 meals, clothing/toiletries for me, wife and son for 24 hour delay; award tickets with taxes/fees in CSR.

(A previous thread that dealt with travel delay compensation has been closed and all future issues with travel delays & cancellations will be handled here. The last 4 posts from that thread have been merged into this one. The closed thread can be found here.)

For one overview of when you're covered and how to file a claim, read this blog post. The Milewriter @ Saverocity compiled a lot of information from this thread, and thanks all the contributors.

Trip Cancellation / Trip Interruption

This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel or interrupt because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption only covers a few new expenses: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility and from the airport to your home.

What are covered reasons? Illness or injury or death (with documentation) of you or family, severe weather, change in military orders, terrorism, jury duty or subpoena, uninhabitable dwelling, quarantine, or if your travel supplier goes bankrupt. Pre-existing medical conditions are not covered.
Who is covered? CSP/CSR: Extended family: You, your Spouse or Domestic Partner and their children, including adopted children or step-children; legal guardians or wards; siblings or siblings-in-law; parents or parents-in-law; grandparents or grandchildren; aunts or uncles; nieces or nephews. MPE: You, spouse/domestic partner, dependent children.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their extended family / immediate family depending on the card.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the travel arrangements with my card to be covered? Apparently now this is "yes", you have to pay for "some portion" of each travel arrangement (hotel, flight, etc.) for that arrangement to be covered.
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are covered? "airline tickets, train tickets, bus tickets, prepaid tours, hotels, and rental cars."
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are not covered? "Event Tickets or prepaid fees to theme parks, museums, golf courses, or other points of interest"
I got ill during a trip and had to buy really expensive tickets to fly home. Will I get reimbursed? No. If you can't use your original tickets, this will reimburse you for those -- but new tickets are on you. If you change your original tickets, this will cover the change fee only. It does not pay for fare difference or new tickets. It will pay up to $250 to get you to/from the airport or train station, medical facility, and to your residence after you land at your home airport.
I got ill and need to cancel my trip / return early. What documentation do I need? Generally a letter from a physician or other medical person. There is a special claim form for the doctor to fill out but a sufficiently detailed letter from the doctor can work too.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 60 days. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
My flight was cancelled. Am I covered? Probably not. Only if it was cancelled due to weather or transit strikes, and only if you didn't get reimbursed by the carrier. However, see Trip Delay above.
I cancelled my trip and the airline has given me one year to use my tickets, but I can't use them. How do I get reimbursed? Several reports indicate that you must wait for the unused tickets to expire, then file another claim. You can get the change fee covered right away. Other reports say if you demonstrate you won't use the tickets, they'll cover full amount right now. YMMV.
Am I covered if I'm taking a road trip, with no flights or common carrier? Yes. However the online claim form requires flight info; just fill it out with dummy flights and explain your other documents that there was no common carrier.
I am pregnant and no longer want to travel. Am I covered? Maybe. Generally, unexpected complications with non-IVF pre-26th week single pregnancies are covered. Non-IVF multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets) are not covered unless you get pregnant after purchasing your tickets. IVF pregnancies are not covered. The guide says you are not covered for "Travel arrangements that are scheduled to take place after the twenty-sixth (26th) week of pregnancy; or when any multiple pregnancy, with or without complications, occurs prior to the initial deposit date or booking date of the Trip; or any pregnancy associated with an assisted reproductive program, such as in vitro fertilization"
There is civil unrest at my destination, am I covered? Maybe. Generally you are covered if there is a Terrorist Incident or State Dept travel warning during your trip (Trip Interruption) or in the 30 days leading up to your trip (for Trip Cancellation) for within 25 miles of any place along your trip itinerary or your home, as long as the incident or warning didn't happen before you booked your tickets. Not covered is "War, undeclared war, civil war, insurrection, rebellion, revolution, warlike acts by a military force or personnel". Also not covered is "Trips booked to any area known to be associated with Terrorist Activity" (meaning multiple Terrorist Incidents or travel warnings in 12 months) and "disinclination to travel due to civil unrest [or] an epidemic or pandemic".

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Old Nov 30, 2017, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by stevelb
... necessary to make a trip to a doctor to be able to later obtain some medical documentation f....
Yes.

If a Physician has advised that making the Covered Trip is medically inadvisable, you must immediately notify the appropriate Travel Supplier that you are cancelling your travel arrangements. If you don’t notify the supplier, the Company’s reimbursement will not exceed the cancellation penalties imposed during the period by the supplier and in effect forty-eight (48) hours immediately following your receipt of advice from your Physician that travel is not advisable.

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What types of documentation may be requested when a claim is submitted? Some of the documentation the Company may request includes, but is not limited to: • completed claim form • copy of the travel itinerary • confirmation of the reason for the Trip Cancellation or Trip Interruption—i.e. medical documents, death certificate, or other documentation supporting a Covered Loss • copy of the Credit Card statement that shows the charge for prepaid travel arrangements for Trip Cancellation • proof of expenses incurred due to a Trip Interruption • a copy of the cancellation or refund polices of the Common Carrier, Tour Operator, or Travel Supplier
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If I paid for a airline ticket with the Chase Sapphire Reserve card a few months ago and then downgraded to the fee free Sapphire card and said trip gets cancelled for a covered reason, can I still file a claim with the travel insurance. I would assume not, but could also see that since I purchased the trip during a time I had the card and paid the applicable annual fee that the coverage would extend to this trip.
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Originally Posted by chicago747
If I paid for a airline ticket with the Chase Sapphire Reserve card a few months ago and then downgraded to the fee free Sapphire card and said trip gets cancelled for a covered reason, can I still file a claim with the travel insurance. I would assume not, but could also see that since I purchased the trip during a time I had the card and paid the applicable annual fee that the coverage would extend to this trip.
There are no reports on this forum or elsewhere that I know of of this working.
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Originally Posted by stevelb
If you are going to cancel a trip due to a very severe cold do you think it will be necessary to make a trip to a doctor to be able to later obtain some medical documentation for the claim. It would actually just be a claim for two change fees on Delta.
Yes: otherwise, any fraudster could simply claim a "severe cold" whenever (s)he felt like changing or cancelling a trip.
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There are no reports on this forum or elsewhere that I know of of this working.
okay, thanks. I recently cancelled my Amex Plat and had used the premium car insurance. They specifically sent me a letter stating any claims made from that insurance would still be honored even though the card was cancelled. I figured that might hold true with the Sapphire Reserve, but I guess since the Amex insurance was a paid product it's not apples to apples.
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okay, thanks. I recently cancelled my Amex Plat and had used the premium car insurance. They specifically sent me a letter stating any claims made from that insurance would still be honored even though the card was cancelled. I figured that might hold true with the Sapphire Reserve, but I guess since the Amex insurance was a paid product it's not apples to apples.
They said you could continue with a claim for an event that happened while you had the insurance, or they said you could make a new claim for an event that happened after you cancelled the insurance?
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Are authorized users considered cardholders with regard to all of the trip cancellation/delay insurances and other benefits?
I'm an authorized user on my father's Chase Sapphire Reserve, so I have a card with my name embossed on it. Am I considered a "Primary Insured Person"?
(While I would be covered through my father's card, my wife would not)
As they say, PUTPAC.
The representative on the phone said that as I am a card holder "with my name embossed on the card", I am a Primary Insured Person and my wife is insured too.
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Originally Posted by yitzc
As they say, PUTPAC.
The representative on the phone said that as I am a card holder "with my name embossed on the card", I am a Primary Insured Person and my wife is insured too.
Just out of curiosity, who is "they" and whereabouts do "they" say PUTPAC? That's a new one on me though Señor Google knew what it was.
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Anybody have issues with filing claims due to the Bali volcano issue that's currently ongoing? I read the guide to benefits and it seems that as a severe weather event it would be covered, nor could I find any exclusions relating to volcanoes. A friend was supposed to go to Bali on his honeymoon last week and is trying to get a refund for one of the flights he paid cash for (mileage tickets he was able to redeposit). He's called both the Chase travel and Chase cancellation/insurance numbers and both have said on multiple calls that volcanoes are not covered events. I'm supposed to go on my honeymoon next month to Bali as well and just want to be prepared for the process if I end up having to deal with this if we aren't able to go as well. Surprisingly I haven't been able to find any other blog posts talking about using this benefit for the current Bali situation, maybe because it's too recent and people haven't gone through the process yet?
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Anybody have issues with filing claims due to the Bali volcano issue that's currently ongoing? I read the guide to benefits and it seems that as a severe weather event it would be covered, nor could I find any exclusions relating to volcanoes. A friend was supposed to go to Bali on his honeymoon last week and is trying to get a refund for one of the flights he paid cash for (mileage tickets he was able to redeposit). He's called both the Chase travel and Chase cancellation/insurance numbers and both have said on multiple calls that volcanoes are not covered events. I'm supposed to go on my honeymoon next month to Bali as well and just want to be prepared for the process if I end up having to deal with this if we aren't able to go as well. Surprisingly I haven't been able to find any other blog posts talking about using this benefit for the current Bali situation, maybe because it's too recent and people haven't gone through the process yet?
This is a tricky one. The coverage specifically excludes

"• travel arrangements canceled or changed by a Common Carrier, Tour Operator, or any Travel Agency unless the cancellation is the result of severe weather or an organized strike affecting public transportation"

While a volcanic ash plume can cause weather impacts, such as localized lightning and even global temperature cooling (if the ash cloud is sustained and big enough), none of these weather effects are the reason for flight cancellations. Rather,the cancellations are the result of fear that the ash particles will be sucked into the jet engines, cause catastrophic damage, and cause the plane to loose power and crash.

The Chase exclusion would also exclude flight cancellations due to earthquake damage to an airport, rendering flight operations untenable. Earthquakes, like volcanic ash, are not weather events, but geologic events.

Sorry...

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Old Dec 2, 2017, 4:29 am
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Originally Posted by brosnan6
... trying to get a refund for one of the flights he paid cash for (mileage tickets he was able to redeposit). He's called both the Chase travel and Chase cancellation/insurance numb
Originally Posted by 747FC
... The coverage specifically excludes"• travel arrangements canceled or changed by a Common Carrier,..."
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If I understand correctly, brosnan6's friend's flight was not cancelled, he simply chose not to fly, and is seeking reimbursement based on this provision: Severe weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from beginning or continuing on a Covered Trip. I agree that a volcanic eruption isn't a weather event, although it may affect the weather. It's odd that the Chase Benefits Guide makes no reference to natural disaster.
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It's odd that the Chase Benefits Guide makes no reference to natural disaster.
I'm sure that the omission is not inadvertent
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Hi I have a question about the delay reimbursement since I never experienced more than 2+ hour delay or cancellation before. I see that its mention many times that you can claim with a 6+ hour delay but when I look at the chase sapphire preferred benefit booklet https://www.chasebenefits.com/sapphirepreferredVW17 it states more than twelve (12) hours? Thanks.
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Old Dec 2, 2017, 8:31 pm
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This is one of the differences between Sapphire Reserve ($450) and Sapphire Preferred ($95). Reserve pays after 6 hour delay, Preferred only after 12 hours. (Citi Prestige $450 pays after 3 hours.)
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Old Dec 3, 2017, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
If I understand correctly, brosnan6's friend's flight was not cancelled, he simply chose not to fly, and is seeking reimbursement based on this provision: Severe weather, which prevents a reasonable and prudent person from beginning or continuing on a Covered Trip. I agree that a volcanic eruption isn't a weather event, although it may affect the weather. It's odd that the Chase Benefits Guide makes no reference to natural disaster.
That's correct, his flight was not cancelled but he chose not to fly there on the basis of being unsure as to what would happen on the way home if things got worse. Problem is that his airline (KLM) published a set of dates where they would honor a refund and his flight is one day outside of that range. So far KLM isn't budging. Seems like an optimal situation for HUCA and that's what he has been trying and will continue to try a couple more times next week.
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