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Old May 17, 2017, 6:45 pm
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Many Chase cards, including Sapphire Preferred and Reserve and MileagePlus Explorer, come with three different kinds of travel protection:

Trip Delay: This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

Trip Cancellation: This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference). Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption: This is similar to Trip Cancellation, but reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because you cut your trip short for a covered reason (illness, etc.). It mostly covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Exceptions: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

No coverage on the Chase cards will pay for new expensive tickets home.

How to file a claim:
- go to http://eclaimsline.com/ , or
- call 1-888-675-1461

Guide to Benefits:
Read it! CSR - CSP

Trip Delay FAQ and experiences

This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

How long does the delay have to be? 6 hours for CSR, 12 hours for CSP and MPE, check your guide to benefits for other cards. Also kicks in if the delay is "overnight".
Are delays because of weather and mechanical problems covered? Yes.
Who is covered? Only you, your spouse, your dependent children under 22. For large meals (multiple main courses), people have been asked what portion of the meal was consumed by covered travelers.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their spouse and dependent children.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the flight that is delayed with the Chase card? Yes.
Do I have to use my Chase card to purchase hotel/meals/etc. I am hoping to have covered? No, you can use any card, or cash. Just keep your receipts.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 1 year. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
Does it cover alcohol? Recent reports indicate yes; some older reports of alcohol being denied.
Does it cover tips? Recent reports indicate yes, up to 20%; some older reports of tips being denied.
My airline is offering a voucher for a hotel, but I skipped the voucher line and booked my own hotel. Am I covered? Reports point to yes, as long as you did not actually take the airline up on their offer.
Rather than staying in a hotel, I'd rather rent a car / buy a walk-up fare on another airline. Will this be covered? Mixed reports. In general this coverage is meant for expenses incurred during a delay, not onward travel.
How do I show the reason for the delay? The coverage requires a statement from the carrier indicating the cause of the delay. If your document doesn't state the cause of the delay, it probably will not work. One possibility is to get a military excuse while at the airport; another is to screenshot the carrier's website or app if it shows the cause. You can also write after the fact to get a delay letter: United: [email protected] , Delta , American. Make sure to request that the delay letter state the cause of the delay. For other carriers contact their main customer service.
Am I covered if my flight is cancelled and I am rebooked on a later flight? Yes
Am I covered if my flight is slightly delayed and I miss my connection, causing a longer delay? Yes
Am I covered at my home airport? Maybe. This report of someone being covered after appeal for hotel in Newark when EWR flight was delayed, lives in NJ but not Newark. Guide says "You are not covered for any Covered Hazard delay that was made public or known to you prior to the departure for the Covered Trip [a period of round-trip travel (meaning departing from and eventually returning to your primary residence) that doesn’t exceed three hundred and sixty- five (365) days away from your residence to a destination other than your city of residence.]".
I was delayed on my outbound and claimed $500. Now am I delayed on my inbound. Am I covered? One report on this thread of two reimbursements for two different delay incidents on a single ticket. Chase says "per trip" on the phone, but Guide says "per ticket". So a round-trip ticket may not cover two delays, but two one-ways could. Need more data on this.

Experiences:

  • 01/2014 - Delayed in MSP overnight due to mechanical issues. ~$300 for Hotel Ivy downtown, meals, and ground transportation covered with no issues. Benefits applied to AMEX FHR. Claim processed within 1 week. [Full Report]
  • 02/2014 - Flight was cancelled due to weather; booked Amtrak with points, which was then delayed because of downed electrical wires; rented a car and drove home. Used print out from flightaware.com to show flight was cancelled, claimed non-points dollar amount for Amtrak ticket, got Chase (not insurance) to request receipts from vendors that weren't saved by OP. All was covered. Full report
  • 04/2014 - Delayed in DTW overnight due to crew member time-out. ~$400 for DTW Westin and meals covered with no issues. Claim processed within 1 week. Full Report
  • 07/2014- Delayed in MSP overnight due to weather at destination. Booked Marriott Mall of America for $120, and meals for 3 and a shirt were all covered. Recommend keeping new and old boarding passes.
  • 12/2014 - Trip delay in WAS (flight was delayed because of MX causing misconnect and overnight. Reward flight with taxes+fees on Chase card. OP + wife were covered $632 for a for a room, dinner, and taxi roundtrip from the airport. Gratuity was not reimbursed and could not convince them to after a phone call. Hotel Was $380 after tax and this was not a problem.
  • 07/2016 - Delayed in YYC overnight due to mechanical problems. Claim paid out ~$300. Full report.
  • 7/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to thunderstorms. ~$390 for hotel, uber, meals. Claim processed within a week, no issues. Full report.
  • 9/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to Harvey. ~$499 for hotel, ubereats. Claim processed in 7 business days
  • 1/2017 - $625 covered on two tickets on JetBlue award flight with taxes+fees on Chase in FLL. Missed connection due to Mx. Incl. $65 at Walgreens, r/t uber to hotel, uber home, $265 hotel, $180 meal. Tax, tip, and alcohol covered.
  • 06/2017 - $258 covered for overnight delay hotel/dinner. Did not cover $50 to pick a seat on next day's flight. Full report
  • 08/2017 - covered during ATC equipment failure leading to cancelled flight
  • 08/2017 - covered with flightaware showing delay, no direct statement from carrier. Booked dummy return flight on Southwest to 'comply' with r/t requirement.
  • 12/2017 - covered for forced overnight due to ATL "Power Outage". Entire ticket, including taxes, was paid for using Ultimate Reward points through my Reserve account. There was no credit card charge showing on my account.
  • 1/2018 - covered for $500 including hotel tips, a drink, and minibar snacks w/ no receipt (but showed credit card statement with purchases listed)
  • 1/2018 - covered rental + gas to drive to int'l gateway when feeder flight was cancelled.
  • 3/2018 - covered int'l phone calls, roaming cell phone data (submitted phone bill), storage locker, and hotel.
  • 4/2018 - covered hotel, meals/snacks, cold medicine, Uber ground transport for overnight due to weather. Award ticket with taxes/fees on CSR.
  • 5/2018 - covered $250 in hotel, uber, two meals after missing a connection in a "painless but slightly drawn out" process. Had to request a different delay letter because first one didn't state cause of delay. Total turn-around time 40 days including re-requesting delay letter.
  • 11/2018 - covered $300+ in hotel, 2 Ubers, 3 meals; did not cover seat charge or Uber home; originally booked with UR points (no CC charge)
  • 7/2019 - covered $400+ in hotel, rental car, 3 meals, clothing/toiletries for me, wife and son for 24 hour delay; award tickets with taxes/fees in CSR.

(A previous thread that dealt with travel delay compensation has been closed and all future issues with travel delays & cancellations will be handled here. The last 4 posts from that thread have been merged into this one. The closed thread can be found here.)

For one overview of when you're covered and how to file a claim, read this blog post. The Milewriter @ Saverocity compiled a lot of information from this thread, and thanks all the contributors.

Trip Cancellation / Trip Interruption

This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel or interrupt because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption only covers a few new expenses: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility and from the airport to your home.

What are covered reasons? Illness or injury or death (with documentation) of you or family, severe weather, change in military orders, terrorism, jury duty or subpoena, uninhabitable dwelling, quarantine, or if your travel supplier goes bankrupt. Pre-existing medical conditions are not covered.
Who is covered? CSP/CSR: Extended family: You, your Spouse or Domestic Partner and their children, including adopted children or step-children; legal guardians or wards; siblings or siblings-in-law; parents or parents-in-law; grandparents or grandchildren; aunts or uncles; nieces or nephews. MPE: You, spouse/domestic partner, dependent children.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their extended family / immediate family depending on the card.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the travel arrangements with my card to be covered? Apparently now this is "yes", you have to pay for "some portion" of each travel arrangement (hotel, flight, etc.) for that arrangement to be covered.
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are covered? "airline tickets, train tickets, bus tickets, prepaid tours, hotels, and rental cars."
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are not covered? "Event Tickets or prepaid fees to theme parks, museums, golf courses, or other points of interest"
I got ill during a trip and had to buy really expensive tickets to fly home. Will I get reimbursed? No. If you can't use your original tickets, this will reimburse you for those -- but new tickets are on you. If you change your original tickets, this will cover the change fee only. It does not pay for fare difference or new tickets. It will pay up to $250 to get you to/from the airport or train station, medical facility, and to your residence after you land at your home airport.
I got ill and need to cancel my trip / return early. What documentation do I need? Generally a letter from a physician or other medical person. There is a special claim form for the doctor to fill out but a sufficiently detailed letter from the doctor can work too.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 60 days. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
My flight was cancelled. Am I covered? Probably not. Only if it was cancelled due to weather or transit strikes, and only if you didn't get reimbursed by the carrier. However, see Trip Delay above.
I cancelled my trip and the airline has given me one year to use my tickets, but I can't use them. How do I get reimbursed? Several reports indicate that you must wait for the unused tickets to expire, then file another claim. You can get the change fee covered right away. Other reports say if you demonstrate you won't use the tickets, they'll cover full amount right now. YMMV.
Am I covered if I'm taking a road trip, with no flights or common carrier? Yes. However the online claim form requires flight info; just fill it out with dummy flights and explain your other documents that there was no common carrier.
I am pregnant and no longer want to travel. Am I covered? Maybe. Generally, unexpected complications with non-IVF pre-26th week single pregnancies are covered. Non-IVF multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets) are not covered unless you get pregnant after purchasing your tickets. IVF pregnancies are not covered. The guide says you are not covered for "Travel arrangements that are scheduled to take place after the twenty-sixth (26th) week of pregnancy; or when any multiple pregnancy, with or without complications, occurs prior to the initial deposit date or booking date of the Trip; or any pregnancy associated with an assisted reproductive program, such as in vitro fertilization"
There is civil unrest at my destination, am I covered? Maybe. Generally you are covered if there is a Terrorist Incident or State Dept travel warning during your trip (Trip Interruption) or in the 30 days leading up to your trip (for Trip Cancellation) for within 25 miles of any place along your trip itinerary or your home, as long as the incident or warning didn't happen before you booked your tickets. Not covered is "War, undeclared war, civil war, insurrection, rebellion, revolution, warlike acts by a military force or personnel". Also not covered is "Trips booked to any area known to be associated with Terrorist Activity" (meaning multiple Terrorist Incidents or travel warnings in 12 months) and "disinclination to travel due to civil unrest [or] an epidemic or pandemic".

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Old Aug 27, 2017, 4:40 pm
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Thanks, mia!

For those wanting the specific AA page related to Trip Insurance Flight Cancellation/Delay verification, here it is:

https://www.aa.com/contact/forms?top.../VRFY_CNCL_DLY

I'm printing it out for use on my next AA international trip.
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Old Aug 28, 2017, 9:46 am
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Does the card have to be open to get the benefit?

My specific case - I've booked some travel for early 2018 and the airlines tickets were paid via the Sapphire Reserve. I'm thinking of not renewing the card at my annual renewal in October.

So, what would happen if I wanted to make a claim against the trip delay / cancellation benefit (or for the broader question, any of the benefits of the card like extended warranty, purchase protection etc.)

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Old Aug 28, 2017, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by Illini_Fan
Does the card have to be open to get the benefit?
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Scroll BACK and read recent discussion. My reading of the terms is that if you close the account the coverage ends, but it's unclear what would happen if you downgraded to a different card product.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 10:16 pm
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Any data points on whether this form actually works? I submitted it a few days after submitting my claim expecting to have to send a letter from Delta to the benefits administrator and haven't heard anything yet, not even a confirmation email from the website immediately after submitting. (And no, it doesn't look like a screenshot of FlightAware works, at least for this claim.)
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Any data points on whether this form actually works?...
The Delta forum is probably a better place to ask.
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Originally Posted by mia
The Delta forum is probably a better place to ask.
Perhaps. I did call Delta today (1-800-455-2720 option 4) and managed to get the reference number for the online request I submitted, so I'll be able to check on it if I still don't hear anything back.

BTW per the person I talked to the letter will come via email if you provide one on the linked form above, otherwise US mail.
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 4:16 am
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I am thinking of getting connecting flights on different itineraries. Would I be covered if a say 2 hour delay on flight 1 meant I missed flight 2 and had to pay full fare for a new ticket?
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Originally Posted by Sintaku
...Would I be covered... had to pay full fare for a new ticket?
You may be covered but that won't include reimbursing the cost of the replacement ticket. Scroll BACK and read forward.
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After reading this thread I still have a few questions regarding the process myself:

I'm supposed to fly out Sunday to Mexico but I have a pretty bad food poisoning that keeps me from flying, I have been at the doctor's office and he said I shouldn't fly as the additional dehydration and whatnot wouldn't be good (I also feel terrible).

What would be the best course of action to cancel my flights?
I booked them initially with UR Points and have read that if I call UR and have it canceled they'll charge the cancellation fee to my CC and I won't get it back from my CSR insurance. Is that still the case?
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Originally Posted by Evils
After reading this thread I still have a few questions regarding the process myself:

I'm supposed to fly out Sunday to Mexico but I have a pretty bad food poisoning that keeps me from flying, I have been at the doctor's office and he said I shouldn't fly as the additional dehydration and whatnot wouldn't be good (I also feel terrible).

What would be the best course of action to cancel my flights?
I booked them initially with UR Points and have read that if I call UR and have it canceled they'll charge the cancellation fee to my CC and I won't get it back from my CSR insurance. Is that still the case?
I had a similar question, but have been reading around the interwebs and it seems that CSR does reimburse you for the cancellation fee.

My similarity is that everyone in my family is sick and I may get the virus...and I have a flight scheduled in two days (haven't bought the ticket yet) that I am thinking of canceling the minute I feel sick....but if I do go through with the ticket purchase, and then I get sick, will CSR trip insurance help reimburse me for the cancellation?
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I'm strongly considering applying for the Chase Sapphire Preferred solely for the insurances including primary rental, baggage insurance, and trip insurance. (The new signup bonus doesn't hurt either). Between rental cars, cruises, planes, and any other getaways, I would say that would be roughly 5-10 "events" a year where insurance is offered. Sometimes I buy it, sometimes I don't. For $95 a year, it seems worth it alone. I'll always be protected, at a lower cost than buying it every time. The reserved's annual fee is overkill to me. Thoughts?
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I'm strongly considering applying for the Chase Sapphire Preferred solely for the insurances including primary rental, baggage insurance, and trip insurance. (The new signup bonus doesn't hurt either). Between rental cars, cruises, planes, and any other getaways, I would say that would be roughly 5-10 "events" a year where insurance is offered. Sometimes I buy it, sometimes I don't. For $95 a year, it seems worth it alone. I'll always be protected, at a lower cost than buying it every time. The reserved's annual fee is overkill to me. Thoughts?
Remember the 1st year fee is waived.
Yes I believe I've saved more on travel Ins. than the card costs.
Plus I got back $175 on a claim last year so I'm already ahead of the game.
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Old Sep 2, 2017, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Super Mario
. For $95 a year, it seems worth it alone. I'll always be protected, at a lower cost than buying it every time.
Depends what you are actually buying and comparing against

Remember, car rental doesn't include liability (most paid insurances don't, unless you get an umbrella coverage), doesn't cover trucks/vans/etc

Trip insurance, only reimburses nonrefundablr fees, some paid insurance cover any additional fare difference to get you home/trip

Read the whole policy
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Supposed to fly home to MCO on Monday but am assuming Irma will be over the state at the time. Wondering if I need to wait for the flight to be cancelled or at what point I can go ahead and push the flight to the next day and book a hotel?
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 1:56 am
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I'm still waiting on Delta to send me the necessary documentation. In the meantime, I typed up a letter to eclaimsline citing ATC recordings from the day/time of the delayed flight as proof of "covered hazard" (and attached said recordings to the Word document). I'll let you guys know if that actually works or not.

BTW if this does work you'll want to be sure to grab the recordings from liveatc.net within 30 days after the flight as IIRC they'll cost money to retrieve afterward.
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