Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer (Post 36940930)

Surely there are lots of Gulf, Indian, etc. UHNWIs to be tapped who could be lured to see/spend time in HK/maybe engage in some bleisure and CX is ceding this market to other hubs in favor of HK tourists to Japan who could be served by some other LCC if there's really that much money in it.

Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 36941236)

Variflight, one of China's top flight tracking apps, has posted a tentative schedule for HKG-URC. Interestingly, this is one of the first CX's mainland flight departing from HKG around midnight.

CX998 HKG-URC 0130-0700*
CX997 URC-HKG 1015-1520

However, please take it with a grain of salt, as it is not officially announced yet.

Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36941323)

* For those of you that aren't aware, Xinjiang time is unofficially 2 hours behind Beijing Time, so that's a 5a arrival.

Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 36941348)

That is a very good point. I heard that the usual business hour in XinJiang is from 10 AM to 8 PM.

Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 36941236)

Variflight, one of China's top flight tracking apps, has posted a tentative schedule for HKG-URC. Interestingly, this is one of the first CX's mainland flight departing from HKG around midnight.

CX998 HKG-URC 0130-0700
CX997 URC-HKG 1015-1520

However, please take it with a grain of salt, as it is not officially announced yet.

Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus (Post 36941236)

Variflight, one of China's top flight tracking apps, has posted a tentative schedule for HKG-URC. Interestingly, this is one of the first CX's mainland flight departing from HKG around midnight.

CX998 HKG-URC 0130-0700
CX997 URC-HKG 1015-1520

However, please take it with a grain of salt, as it is not officially announced yet.

Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 36941421)

Sounds like a good way to utilise the regional fleet with an overnight flight.

Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 36941200)

This is what wikipedia has to say about India: "According to a 2021 report by the Pew Research Center, India has roughly 1.2 billion lower-income individuals, 66 million middle-income individuals, 16 million upper-middle-income individuals, and barely 2 million in the high-income group. According to The Economist, 78 million of India's population are considered middle class as of 2017, if defined using the cutoff of those making more than $10 per day, a standard used by the India's National Council of Applied Economic Research.[9] According to the World Bank, 93% of India's population lived on less than $10 per day, and 99% lived on less than $20 per day in 2021.[10]".

Granted the stats are a little out of date (I am too lazy to dig any further) but there are less high income Indians than there are people in Hong Kong and their standard of middle class is probably not even enough to buy you food in HK.

Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36941128)

Sure, I realize the overall numbers have yet to return to 2019 volumes, but TMK Europe has recovered more quickly than other long haul markets.



I wish I had more recent data, or more sources, but I'm not currently working in a research capacity, so I take what I can find from the common internet. What does the SCMP article (paywalled) say specifically about Europe?

ETA: Thank you to the forum member who privately shared the SCMP article with me. I thought it was a decent read, especially based on the paper's current standards; I was hoping they'd offer multiple sources, or at least a single source more useful than TravelEx data, though.

Originally Posted by NZflyer777 (Post 36941451)

Good,
HKG can retreat to a regional city status based on their silly wikipedia articles
Dubai and Singapore make millions of the millions of high income indians that traverse in and out of India.

I guess LH, SQ and EK are fools to send some of their most premium heavy aircrafts to BLR/BOM.

The idea that these tiny japanese cities have more demand than cities like Seattle /Bangalore etc is only because CX can't compete with SQ or ME3.

In fact there is greater capacity to BLR than HKG from LH....

Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 36941421)

Sounds like a good way to utilise the regional fleet with an overnight flight.

Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36941435)

Are you tempted?:D

Originally Posted by xexs (Post 36941448)

if only they fly the ones with flatbed lol

Originally Posted by CX860 (Post 36941464)

My condolences that as usual actual facts (from properly sourced articles) uspet you...