Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Cathay Pacific | Cathay
Reload this Page >

Cathay refund problem, denies assistance

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Cathay refund problem, denies assistance

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 7, 2017 | 7:43 pm
  #16  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
30 Countries Visited
3M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,586
Originally Posted by garykung
While FT is popular in the U.S., keep in mind AM is a Hong Kong-based program.

It is better to presume that it is a Hong Kong credit card rather than one from the U.S.
Huh? I don't follow your logic. If FT is more popular in the U.S. than it is in HKG (i.e., there are more American FTers than HKG FTers), the FT reader is more likely to be an American, and thus the credit card is more likely to be from the U.S.
Dr. HFH is offline  
Old Sep 7, 2017 | 8:52 pm
  #17  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,807
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
Huh? I don't follow your logic. If FT is more popular in the U.S. than it is in HKG (i.e., there are more American FTers than HKG FTers), the FT reader is more likely to be an American, and thus the credit card is more likely to be from the U.S.
No need to follow, as this was not pointed at you.
garykung is offline  
Old Sep 7, 2017 | 10:04 pm
  #18  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
30 Countries Visited
3M
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,586
Originally Posted by garykung
No need to follow, as this was not pointed at you.
I didn't realize that only the person who wrote the quoted material to which you were replying was supposed to understand and answer. I thought that this was a discussion open to all.

Sorry for intruding.
Dr. HFH is offline  
Old Sep 7, 2017 | 10:18 pm
  #19  
Suspended
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
no insults to anyone (tho gary sometimes do bug me, but that's not important here)

reading the OP's past post gives an impression (he) is asia based. so assuming a US cc is not the best option.
that said, it's a good reference for anyone with a USD card in the future who flies CX and expects a refund in 7 days (legally)

OTOH, consumer protection is good as sh!t in hong kong. Apple just took away product refund and noone gave a cr@p.
kaka is offline  
Old Sep 8, 2017 | 1:54 am
  #20  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,807
Originally Posted by kaka
no insults to anyone (tho gary sometimes do bug me, but that's not important here)


Originally Posted by kaka
reading the OP's past post gives an impression (he) is asia based. so assuming a US cc is not the best option.
My point exactly, although I used another approach.

Originally Posted by kaka
OTOH, consumer protection is good as sh!t in hong kong. Apple just took away product refund and noone gave a cr@p.
No mean to OT.

1. Consumer protection law in Hong Kong is developing because the government acted slowly. But once implemented, it seems that the law is very aggressive.

2. Apple took away the refund to avoid sudden profits from iPhone, which is fair considering the market.
garykung is offline  
Old Sep 8, 2017 | 12:06 pm
  #21  
Original Poster
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marco Polo Gold
Posts: 1,084
Originally Posted by seawolf
Does itinerary involve a US point? If so, US laws require carrier to post refund to credit card within 7 business days.
Yes, it's a US-based credit card (better benefits) and I do have US residence so I usually carry around US-based cards for purchases.

And yes, I've always gotten refund very fast. This is the first time it's stuck in limbo. Anyway, AMEX opened a case for me and now I'm off the hook for the big charge, now I hope AMEX can sort it out with Cathay.
Cathay Dragon 666 is offline  
Old Sep 8, 2017 | 2:04 pm
  #22  
Original Member
20 Countries Visited
1M
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666
Yes, it's a US-based credit card (better benefits) and I do have US residence so I usually carry around US-based cards for purchases.

And yes, I've always gotten refund very fast. This is the first time it's stuck in limbo. Anyway, AMEX opened a case for me and now I'm off the hook for the big charge, now I hope AMEX can sort it out with Cathay.
Let AMEX sort it out. But if you really want to stick it to CX, you can file a compliant with DOT.
seawolf is offline  
Old Sep 8, 2017 | 6:32 pm
  #23  
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,588
in fairness Amex in hk (presume thats the dealing entity) is fairly good with these instances... i basically told them its your problem and they took care. as much as people laugh i find Amex to be rather competent.
fakecd is offline  
Old Sep 8, 2017 | 8:37 pm
  #24  
All eyes on you!
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: asia miles
Posts: 442
Originally Posted by fakecd
in fairness Amex in hk (presume thats the dealing entity) is fairly good with these instances... i basically told them its your problem and they took care. as much as people laugh i find Amex to be rather competent.
I do agree with you. I think Amex HK probably have on the best customer service you can find here. Whenever I had to call them for anything, they know what to do and the problem is solve right away.

As for the OP, I guess CX should be able to provide you some form of written confirmation that they did the transfer. That would tell you right away where the money is, on CX side or on your cc company side. But in general CX is quite refunding. I had to refund a ticket in august. refund was posted on my cc few days later
blandy62 is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2017 | 7:14 am
  #25  
Original Poster
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marco Polo Gold
Posts: 1,084
Originally Posted by blandy62
As for the OP, I guess CX should be able to provide you some form of written confirmation that they did the transfer. That would tell you right away where the money is, on CX side or on your cc company side. But in general CX is quite refunding. I had to refund a ticket in august. refund was posted on my cc few days later
This is the part I'm most confused with. I've called Cathay many times asking for anything written to prove they have refunded the money, so I can ask AMEX to confirm. Cathay refused (my many requests) and basically declaring their words of the refund being processed on August 23rd is proof enough.
Cathay Dragon 666 is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2017 | 7:43 am
  #26  
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,588
you could also argue with amex that original transaction to be treated as disputed charges. that way amex will chase CX for money.

long story short CX wont give you anything apart from horrow promise. this is where amex does the job for you
fakecd is offline  
Old Sep 9, 2017 | 8:11 am
  #27  
Original Member
20 Countries Visited
1M
All eyes on you!
25 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
Originally Posted by Cathay Dragon 666
This is the part I'm most confused with. I've called Cathay many times asking for anything written to prove they have refunded the money, so I can ask AMEX to confirm. Cathay refused (my many requests) and basically declaring their words of the refund being processed on August 23rd is proof enough.
IMO you are overthinking it. File charge back with AMEX and get temp credit. AMEX will reach out to CX and if they don't respond, credit is permanent.
seawolf is offline  
Old Sep 11, 2017 | 8:21 pm
  #28  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,287
I spoke with AMEX here in the Philippines which is handled by BDO, they told me it takes 21 business days after recieving reversal request from CX....i guess Id have to wait a little bit longer for mine.
FlyPointyEnd is offline  
Old Sep 13, 2017 | 8:23 am
  #29  
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
Programs: IHG Spire | Marriott Plat | UA Plat | AA Plat Pro
Posts: 533
Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd
I spoke with AMEX here in the Philippines which is handled by BDO, they told me it takes 21 business days after recieving reversal request from CX....i guess Id have to wait a little bit longer for mine.
A bit OT, but yeah I hate reversals here in the PH, it takes longer than other places. My US cards only take 1-2 weeks vs. 3-4 weeks for my PH cards.
TravelwhileyouEat is offline  
Old Sep 13, 2017 | 7:57 pm
  #30  
10 Countries Visited
20 Countries Visited
30 Countries Visited
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,287
Originally Posted by TravelwhileyouEat
A bit OT, but yeah I hate reversals here in the PH, it takes longer than other places. My US cards only take 1-2 weeks vs. 3-4 weeks for my PH cards.
got my refund yesterday.....lol
FlyPointyEnd is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.