Cathay refund problem, denies assistance
#16
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,586
Huh? I don't follow your logic. If FT is more popular in the U.S. than it is in HKG (i.e., there are more American FTers than HKG FTers), the FT reader is more likely to be an American, and thus the credit card is more likely to be from the U.S.
#17
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,807
No need to follow, as this was not pointed at you.
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QRPC PLT/OW EMD; Bonvoy LT Titanium
Posts: 14,586
#19
Suspended
Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
no insults to anyone (tho gary sometimes do bug me, but that's not important here)
reading the OP's past post gives an impression (he) is asia based. so assuming a US cc is not the best option.
that said, it's a good reference for anyone with a USD card in the future who flies CX and expects a refund in 7 days (legally)
OTOH, consumer protection is good as sh!t in hong kong. Apple just took away product refund and noone gave a cr@p.
reading the OP's past post gives an impression (he) is asia based. so assuming a US cc is not the best option.
that said, it's a good reference for anyone with a USD card in the future who flies CX and expects a refund in 7 days (legally)
OTOH, consumer protection is good as sh!t in hong kong. Apple just took away product refund and noone gave a cr@p.
#20
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,807

1. Consumer protection law in Hong Kong is developing because the government acted slowly. But once implemented, it seems that the law is very aggressive.
2. Apple took away the refund to avoid sudden profits from iPhone, which is fair considering the market.
#21
Original Poster

Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marco Polo Gold
Posts: 1,084
And yes, I've always gotten refund very fast. This is the first time it's stuck in limbo. Anyway, AMEX opened a case for me and now I'm off the hook for the big charge, now I hope AMEX can sort it out with Cathay.
#22
Original Member




Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
Yes, it's a US-based credit card (better benefits) and I do have US residence so I usually carry around US-based cards for purchases.
And yes, I've always gotten refund very fast. This is the first time it's stuck in limbo. Anyway, AMEX opened a case for me and now I'm off the hook for the big charge, now I hope AMEX can sort it out with Cathay.
And yes, I've always gotten refund very fast. This is the first time it's stuck in limbo. Anyway, AMEX opened a case for me and now I'm off the hook for the big charge, now I hope AMEX can sort it out with Cathay.
#23


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,588
in fairness Amex in hk (presume thats the dealing entity) is fairly good with these instances... i basically told them its your problem and they took care. as much as people laugh i find Amex to be rather competent.
#24


Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: asia miles
Posts: 442
As for the OP, I guess CX should be able to provide you some form of written confirmation that they did the transfer. That would tell you right away where the money is, on CX side or on your cc company side. But in general CX is quite refunding. I had to refund a ticket in august. refund was posted on my cc few days later
#25
Original Poster

Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marco Polo Gold
Posts: 1,084
As for the OP, I guess CX should be able to provide you some form of written confirmation that they did the transfer. That would tell you right away where the money is, on CX side or on your cc company side. But in general CX is quite refunding. I had to refund a ticket in august. refund was posted on my cc few days later
#26


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,588
you could also argue with amex that original transaction to be treated as disputed charges. that way amex will chase CX for money.
long story short CX wont give you anything apart from horrow promise. this is where amex does the job for you
long story short CX wont give you anything apart from horrow promise. this is where amex does the job for you
#27
Original Member




Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
This is the part I'm most confused with. I've called Cathay many times asking for anything written to prove they have refunded the money, so I can ask AMEX to confirm. Cathay refused (my many requests) and basically declaring their words of the refund being processed on August 23rd is proof enough.
#28




Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,287
I spoke with AMEX here in the Philippines which is handled by BDO, they told me it takes 21 business days after recieving reversal request from CX....i guess Id have to wait a little bit longer for mine.
#29
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
Programs: IHG Spire | Marriott Plat | UA Plat | AA Plat Pro
Posts: 533
A bit OT, but yeah I hate reversals here in the PH, it takes longer than other places. My US cards only take 1-2 weeks vs. 3-4 weeks for my PH cards.
#30




Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,287


