Cathay refund problem, denies assistance
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Cathay refund problem, denies assistance
Refund a ticket on 8/18, didn't see the money back to the AE I used. Call Cathay. They claimed it's refunded on 8/23 on their record. Called AE. No evidence of such refund. Called Cathay both Reservation and MPO, both said they can't help any more than saying their record shows refund happened on 8/23. I asked them to investigate and they refused, adamant that what their record shows is proof enough, and the problem is on AE side. Called AE, didn't have any record Cathay attempted a refund.
Anything more I can do about this?
Anything more I can do about this?
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Ive refunded lots of CX tickets and NEVER got the refund credited to my account that quickly (5 days). Perhaps the 8/23 refund is simply their internal approval for that and it hasn't been sent to AE yet? Usually refunds occur for me in 2-3 weeks.
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It takes me 2-3 weeks for any refunds to show up - revenue ticket cancellations, award ticket cancellations,
23/8 is probably when CX approved the refund. My guess is it'll show up on your side next week.
23/8 is probably when CX approved the refund. My guess is it'll show up on your side next week.
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There is sometimes a period where a refund from an airline (or hotel) has been submitted/approved/completed (or whatever term they use) but doesn't show up in the side of the bank yet. It's frustrating since you're on the hook for that amount until it does.
I'd ask for the record of the refund from CX then wait another week and if it doesn't show up, file a dispute with AE forwarding the record to them.
I'd ask for the record of the refund from CX then wait another week and if it doesn't show up, file a dispute with AE forwarding the record to them.
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There is sometimes a period where a refund from an airline (or hotel) has been submitted/approved/completed (or whatever term they use) but doesn't show up in the side of the bank yet. It's frustrating since you're on the hook for that amount until it does.
I'd ask for the record of the refund from CX then wait another week and if it doesn't show up, file a dispute with AE forwarding the record to them.
I'd ask for the record of the refund from CX then wait another week and if it doesn't show up, file a dispute with AE forwarding the record to them.
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IIRC AmEx will deduct the anticipated refund from the amount you owe and not charge interest and penalties, provided that the refund does eventually come through to your account. Doing this might involve filing a dispute/chargeback, so think carefully if it's worth it.
Thanks guys!
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DOT has dinged a few carriers for routinely taking 8+ weeks.
The chargeback route, presuming that you have used a US-issued CC (or another country with similar chargeback rules) is far the best way to go. Just request the refund from the vendor, e.g. CX, give it 7 business days and on the 8th day file the chargeback dispute.
Advantages are that you receive an immediate temporary credit which restores your CL if you are concerned about that, forestalls interest accumulation, and puts the shoe on CX's foot. Given that CX has already agreed to the refund, it won't do anything and, in due course, the temporary credit will become final.
On the other hand, if the CX refund arrives in the meantime, the card-issuer will match it up with the dispute and the temporary credit will become final sooner.
Bottom line here is that time is money and it ought not require multiple calls to get anything done.
The chargeback route, presuming that you have used a US-issued CC (or another country with similar chargeback rules) is far the best way to go. Just request the refund from the vendor, e.g. CX, give it 7 business days and on the 8th day file the chargeback dispute.
Advantages are that you receive an immediate temporary credit which restores your CL if you are concerned about that, forestalls interest accumulation, and puts the shoe on CX's foot. Given that CX has already agreed to the refund, it won't do anything and, in due course, the temporary credit will become final.
On the other hand, if the CX refund arrives in the meantime, the card-issuer will match it up with the dispute and the temporary credit will become final sooner.
Bottom line here is that time is money and it ought not require multiple calls to get anything done.
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It is better to presume that it is a Hong Kong credit card rather than one from the U.S.
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Another reason to use a good physical travel agent. They offset the funds they owe from what they are owed, and thus I get refunds of fully refundable fares overnight.
But people balk at paying $35 for a $7,500 ticket for such assistance.
But people balk at paying $35 for a $7,500 ticket for such assistance.
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Maybe they do in Canada but in Hong Kong my work travel agent makes me wait three months for a refund which is ridiculous.




