Jun 26, 2020, 4:48 pm
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CBSA
Massachusetts - Mandatory quarantine (without negative test)
- Minimizing the Risk of Exposure to COVID-19 in Canada Order (Prohibition of Entry into Canada from the United States) - Expires 21 DEC 23:59 Eastern - Could be extended
- Minimizing the Risk of Exposure to COVID-19 in Canada Order (Prohibition of Entry into Canada from any Country other than the United States) - Expires 30 NOV 23:59 Eastern - Could be extended
- Mandatory quarantine - Minimizing the Risk of Exposure to COVID-19 in Canada Order (Mandatory Isolation), No. 7 - Expires 30 NOV 23:59 Eastern - Could be extended
Massachusetts - Mandatory quarantine (without negative test)
Canada bans entry from foreigners; restricting entry to non-essential travel
Jun 24, 2020, 2:36 pm
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That's my understanding as well. US restrictions in place until July 21. Other countries were to be expiring Jun 30. So it could be announcement to either extend or open border to non-US.
Jun 25, 2020, 10:05 am
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Both the orders closing the border to entry from countries other than the US and imposing the 14 day quarantine on anyone who enters expire on June 30, so there will have to be some sort of decision/announcement before then. I do have a suspicion that they will just get extended though.
Jun 25, 2020, 10:24 am
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Both the orders closing the border to entry from countries other than the US and imposing the 14 day quarantine on anyone who enters expire on June 30, so there will have to be some sort of decision/announcement before then. I do have a suspicion that they will just get extended though.
Jun 25, 2020, 10:27 am
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I'm not expecting Canada to open its borders to other countries and continue to exclude the U.S.A. and the outbreaks in the southern states assures the border will be closed longer.
Jun 26, 2020, 1:52 am
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Thanks everyone,I appreciate the discussion and kind words. Yes, I understand it so as well - US border is definitely closed, the other ones will be announced Jun 30. I am not optimistic about this though, as Trudeau made some statement last monday about it kind of being one of the last priorities. I do wish they would consider relaxing a bit for countries who have corona well in grip. I know that the Canadians are mostly getting news and media from the US, and i am sure its scary, but here in Europe everything is really ok. Masks, social distancing - really have made the most difference as opposed to open borders (I say this almost in surprise, as I dont think that highly of other european countries abilities to maintain personal space - but so far since we opened our borders and schools, everything has been ok).
But I get it, I really do. Although we didnt plan on doing anything touristy, I also don't want to come if its going to feel apocalyptic and strange - that will hardly scratch my homesickness itch if I can't even go sit at a Timmies. I still have "maybe fly to go up to friends cottage for 2 weeks" as an option, but I think i should best try to get in contact with someone to make sure the border isnt going to be a problem. I suspect it will be, despite my Canadian passport, because even in non corona times, border control is extremely scrutinizing "what are you doing here, whose children are these".
A question about the voucher option: weeks ago, everyone on the Air Canada subreddit was warning people NOT to except the voucher, saying there were very high fees associated with using them. After that, AC did change some policies. Any reports as to whether this is no longer risky to do?
But I get it, I really do. Although we didnt plan on doing anything touristy, I also don't want to come if its going to feel apocalyptic and strange - that will hardly scratch my homesickness itch if I can't even go sit at a Timmies. I still have "maybe fly to go up to friends cottage for 2 weeks" as an option, but I think i should best try to get in contact with someone to make sure the border isnt going to be a problem. I suspect it will be, despite my Canadian passport, because even in non corona times, border control is extremely scrutinizing "what are you doing here, whose children are these".
A question about the voucher option: weeks ago, everyone on the Air Canada subreddit was warning people NOT to except the voucher, saying there were very high fees associated with using them. After that, AC did change some policies. Any reports as to whether this is no longer risky to do?
Jun 26, 2020, 2:15 am
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As a Canadian citizen, you cannot be refused entry into Canada, for whatever reason. I strongly suspect you husband would be allowed as well, as a spouse. Not to be provocative, but you could even tell the CBSA officer ‘it’s none of your business why I’m here,’ if asked.
The Star had an opinion piece a few days ago that the border will remain closed until the end of the year.
The Star had an opinion piece a few days ago that the border will remain closed until the end of the year.
Jun 26, 2020, 8:32 am
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There was a similar statement made by an immigration lawyer reported by the CBC.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/can...avel-1.5619268
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/can...avel-1.5619268
"I honestly don't think the border will open until the end of the year," said U.S. immigration lawyer Len Saunders. "Especially when you hear about more [COVID-19] cases in Arizona and Texas and all these southern states."
Jun 26, 2020, 8:36 am
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Here you go:
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star...open-soon.html
It may be behind a paywall for you, so here is a relevant snip:
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star...open-soon.html
It may be behind a paywall for you, so here is a relevant snip:
What would it take to reopen the border? You know, the big one with the United States of America. Yeah, those guys.It’s an unknowable, like so much else. But it is hard to imagine it happens this year, honestly. The other day the president of the United States said he tried to discourage COVID-19 testing, and he wasn’t joking, because to joke you need a sense of humour, even a dark and vicious one. This president of the United States can no more joke than he can do a backflip, or name all 50 states.
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We don’t know what America will do about the border. They wanted to put troops there, way back in the pandemic; if they decide unilaterally to open, we still have the Quarantine Act.
But from a Canadian standpoint, it’s simple: we love our special friends, our main trading partner, our continental neighbour, flaws and all. But the border won’t be open for a long, long time.
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We don’t know what America will do about the border. They wanted to put troops there, way back in the pandemic; if they decide unilaterally to open, we still have the Quarantine Act.
But from a Canadian standpoint, it’s simple: we love our special friends, our main trading partner, our continental neighbour, flaws and all. But the border won’t be open for a long, long time.
Jun 26, 2020, 8:36 am
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Thanks everyone,I appreciate the discussion and kind words. Yes, I understand it so as well - US border is definitely closed, the other ones will be announced Jun 30. I am not optimistic about this though, as Trudeau made some statement last monday about it kind of being one of the last priorities. I do wish they would consider relaxing a bit for countries who have corona well in grip. I know that the Canadians are mostly getting news and media from the US, and i am sure its scary, but here in Europe everything is really ok. Masks, social distancing - really have made the most difference as opposed to open borders (I say this almost in surprise, as I dont think that highly of other european countries abilities to maintain personal space - but so far since we opened our borders and schools, everything has been ok).
But I get it, I really do. Although we didnt plan on doing anything touristy, I also don't want to come if its going to feel apocalyptic and strange - that will hardly scratch my homesickness itch if I can't even go sit at a Timmies. I still have "maybe fly to go up to friends cottage for 2 weeks" as an option, but I think i should best try to get in contact with someone to make sure the border isnt going to be a problem. I suspect it will be, despite my Canadian passport, because even in non corona times, border control is extremely scrutinizing "what are you doing here, whose children are these".
A question about the voucher option: weeks ago, everyone on the Air Canada subreddit was warning people NOT to except the voucher, saying there were very high fees associated with using them. After that, AC did change some policies. Any reports as to whether this is no longer risky to do?
But I get it, I really do. Although we didnt plan on doing anything touristy, I also don't want to come if its going to feel apocalyptic and strange - that will hardly scratch my homesickness itch if I can't even go sit at a Timmies. I still have "maybe fly to go up to friends cottage for 2 weeks" as an option, but I think i should best try to get in contact with someone to make sure the border isnt going to be a problem. I suspect it will be, despite my Canadian passport, because even in non corona times, border control is extremely scrutinizing "what are you doing here, whose children are these".
A question about the voucher option: weeks ago, everyone on the Air Canada subreddit was warning people NOT to except the voucher, saying there were very high fees associated with using them. After that, AC did change some policies. Any reports as to whether this is no longer risky to do?
https://www.cp24.com/news/air-canada...irus%20crisis.
Jun 26, 2020, 8:40 am
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Air Canada announced yesterday that those flying EU to Canada can now get a full refund (not Canada to EU though, so provided it is a round ticket, not two separate tickets you should be ok)
https://www.cp24.com/news/air-canada...irus%20crisis.
https://www.cp24.com/news/air-canada...irus%20crisis.
https://www.thestar.com/business/202...estar_business
MONTREAL - Air Canada has quietly changed its refund policy to allow some customers whose flights were cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic to recoup their cash — but not passengers whose trips originated in Canada.
Travellers with flights “departing” from the European Union, Switzerland or Iceland but called off due to the pandemic are “entitled to receive a refund,” states a document recently posted to Air Canada’s website.
“For customers with itineraries originating out of the EU, Air Canada has...recently added the option of a refund for non-refundable tickets,” the company said in an email Thursday.
The airline is not reimbursing passengers flying one-way or round-trip from Canada to Europe, however.
Travellers with flights “departing” from the European Union, Switzerland or Iceland but called off due to the pandemic are “entitled to receive a refund,” states a document recently posted to Air Canada’s website.
“For customers with itineraries originating out of the EU, Air Canada has...recently added the option of a refund for non-refundable tickets,” the company said in an email Thursday.
The airline is not reimbursing passengers flying one-way or round-trip from Canada to Europe, however.
Jun 26, 2020, 8:47 am
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Practically speaking with the outbreaks in popular U.S. destinations for Canadian visitors I'm not confident of a fully-open border until America gets the virus under control no matter how long it takes.
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Jun 26, 2020, 7:17 pm
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Technically speaking, US is actually open for Canadian tourist flying into US as prohibition on non-essential only applies to US land port of entry.
Jun 26, 2020, 7:24 pm
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That is correct however Canada is not open to Americans coming here. Returning Canadians meanwhile are subject to a very strict 14 day quarantine.
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Jun 26, 2020, 11:20 pm
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A glimmer of hope!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/w...ravel-ban.html
"The full list finalized on Friday includes Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, Andorra, San Marino, Monaco and the Vatican. China will be included if it also opens its borders to European Union travelers, as reciprocal reopening is one of the criteria used to make the final selection for the safe list."
If that last part is true then this might be a sneak preview of Trudeau's announcement to come on June 30...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/w...ravel-ban.html
"The full list finalized on Friday includes Algeria, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, Serbia, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, Uruguay, Andorra, San Marino, Monaco and the Vatican. China will be included if it also opens its borders to European Union travelers, as reciprocal reopening is one of the criteria used to make the final selection for the safe list."
If that last part is true then this might be a sneak preview of Trudeau's announcement to come on June 30...