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Pacific Coast Highway - CA Route 1 between SF & LA
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Except during the high season, I find that I get much better deals booking at the last minute (generally on the day of arrival and rarely earlier than the day before). I generally use the Hotwire and/or Booking.com mobile apps to search for available rooms.
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Thanks for the advice. I land at SFO on 12/04 and depart from SAN on 12/18. I have booked the last 3 nights in San Diego. I might just wing the rest.
As for the car, I think I'll probably go for intermediate, which is about as small as I can put up with. I'm quite used to handling large vehicles, but with the advice on the narrow lanes I think I might compromise this time.
As for the car, I think I'll probably go for intermediate, which is about as small as I can put up with. I'm quite used to handling large vehicles, but with the advice on the narrow lanes I think I might compromise this time.
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Er no - hitting walls or falling off cliffs is not my style. Well, it hasn't been up until now, anyway! But then, there's a first time for everything, so thanks for the warning.
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Quite a few people seem to be saying this. I'm doing the trip alone and I travel light, but I just don't like small cars.
However, it doesn't have to be an SUV. I'm now looking at something like the Avis Intermediate category (I don't think I can handle two weeks in a small compact). Would this work out ok for most places?
However, it doesn't have to be an SUV. I'm now looking at something like the Avis Intermediate category (I don't think I can handle two weeks in a small compact). Would this work out ok for most places?
Any of these would be fine for driving California Highway 1. The main point is, you don't want to drive the route in an oversized, ponderous, or tippy vehicle.
Also, should I book accommodation beforehand or just wing it? On my last western road trip I prebooked about 2/3 of my nights and found it a little restrictive. How busy/pricey does accommodation get at the last minute?
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I think there's a bit of a terminology clash here. US rental car companies have inflated their categories over the past several years. What they market as compacts are models classified by the government and regarded by most consumers as a subcompact. Their intermediate/midsize is a consumer compact, and "full size" is generally just a midsize.
Any of these would be fine for driving California Highway 1. The main point is, you don't want to drive the route in an oversized, ponderous, or tippy vehicle.
Any of these would be fine for driving California Highway 1. The main point is, you don't want to drive the route in an oversized, ponderous, or tippy vehicle.
My mother drove a Fiat Seicento for a while and I very nearly smashed it up the first time I drove it - I rammed my size 13 foot on the clutch and caught the brake as well! At least I don't have to worry about clutches in America.
I drive a Peugeot 308 station wagon in real life, which is smaller than I would like, but I'm constrained by narrow European roads and high gas prices.
The last time I was in the USA I booked a "mid-size SUV" through Hertz and ended up with a Nissan Rogue, which I would describe as a small crossover, but which I was perfectly happy with for a few weeks touring.
I have two weekends there. I've booked a Holiday Inn Express for the last 3 nights in San Diego (Fri 15th to Mon 18th). I'll be on the road for the previous weekend. I might just monitor hotels.com or similar for the week or so before that. Thanks for the advice.
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The last time I was in the USA I booked a "mid-size SUV" through Hertz and ended up with a Nissan Rogue, which I would describe as a small crossover, but which I was perfectly happy with for a few weeks touring.
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Anyone planning a driving trip on Highway 1 - PCH - please note the thread below and make alternate plans.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/calif...r-big-sur.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/calif...r-big-sur.html
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Anyone planning a driving trip on Highway 1 - PCH - please note the thread below and make alternate plans.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/calif...r-big-sur.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/calif...r-big-sur.html
Thanks for this. My trip is in December so I should be ok. But I'll monitor this as the year goes on.
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If the bridge is repaired, you have your original trip. If not, you have one almost as good.
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There is pretty much zero chance the bridge will be replaced this year.
Right now the ground is so saturated that the soil under bridge is still moving. It would be dangerous to bring in heavy equipment to demolish and remove the old bridge until the soil is stable. Then once it is stable and dries out (which could take months, given the amount of rain the state is getting) there will need to be an assessment of area to determine the best/safest place for the new bridge, keeping in mind that area is the heart of earthquake territory as well as prone to mudslides and other natural hazards.
A new bridge will need to be designed, money found to pay for it and then actual construction, which won't be easy, given the remote location and difficult terrain, can start. The process might even involve rerouting part of Hwy 1 further inland to find a stable site for a new bridge. There's been talk of that for many years.
In addition there may be other bridges along 1 that have been damaged by the heavy rains. I hope they are all carefully assessed before traffic resumes along the route.
Right now the ground is so saturated that the soil under bridge is still moving. It would be dangerous to bring in heavy equipment to demolish and remove the old bridge until the soil is stable. Then once it is stable and dries out (which could take months, given the amount of rain the state is getting) there will need to be an assessment of area to determine the best/safest place for the new bridge, keeping in mind that area is the heart of earthquake territory as well as prone to mudslides and other natural hazards.
A new bridge will need to be designed, money found to pay for it and then actual construction, which won't be easy, given the remote location and difficult terrain, can start. The process might even involve rerouting part of Hwy 1 further inland to find a stable site for a new bridge. There's been talk of that for many years.
In addition there may be other bridges along 1 that have been damaged by the heavy rains. I hope they are all carefully assessed before traffic resumes along the route.
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That explains a few things. I think I might go for a "full-size", then. I'm definitely not booking compact - I'm 185cm and 110kg (6' 1" and 240lbs) and I just don't like driving around in a little tin can.
The last time I was in the USA I booked a "mid-size SUV" through Hertz and ended up with a Nissan Rogue, which I would describe as a small crossover, but which I was perfectly happy with for a few weeks touring.
The last time I was in the USA I booked a "mid-size SUV" through Hertz and ended up with a Nissan Rogue, which I would describe as a small crossover, but which I was perfectly happy with for a few weeks touring.
I am of similar size. I can fit into a rental compact but it's not comfortable for longer drives and the cards are typically buzzy tin cans anyway. Unless it's cost-prohibitive I rent at least a midsize. If it's just a few dollars more I'll go for full size.
A small crossover such as the Nissan Rogue or Mazda CX-5 is fine for touring the Central Coast. What you want to avoid is a full size SUV such as the Chevy Tahoe or a full size van.
A small crossover such as the Nissan Rogue or Mazda CX-5 is fine for touring the Central Coast. What you want to avoid is a full size SUV such as the Chevy Tahoe or a full size van.
I would definitely avoid full size simply because mpg is going to be bad going up the hills. I was getting around 23mpg and filling up every 300+ miles.
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You might want to consider the alternate route I mentioned in the other thread:
If it were me, I would at least make a potential alternate plan. You could drive south from Monterey/Carmel to see much of Big Sur and then reverse course back toward Monterey. Take SR 68 east over the mountains to Salinas. At Salinas, take 101 south to Highway 46 (or 198 for a more challenging, windy drive) and cut back to the coast there, continuing south on 1. You would only miss a small portion of the original trip.
If you will be driving north, just do the above in reverse.
If it were me, I would at least make a potential alternate plan. You could drive south from Monterey/Carmel to see much of Big Sur and then reverse course back toward Monterey. Take SR 68 east over the mountains to Salinas. At Salinas, take 101 south to Highway 46 (or 198 for a more challenging, windy drive) and cut back to the coast there, continuing south on 1. You would only miss a small portion of the original trip.
If you will be driving north, just do the above in reverse.