Feb 1, 2022, 10:35 am
Last edit by: Scotflyer80
British Airways (BA) announced that they had signed a codeshare agreement with Loganair (LM) on 16th August 2017. The agreement came into affect on 1st September 2017.
British Airways customers can book onward Loganair connections from destinations across its route network, or point to point travel in the UK more easily through ba.com. Executive Club members who book onto routes operated by Loganair through ba.com can earn Avios and Tier points.
Loganair customers are able to connect onto British Airways domestic services at Manchester, Inverness, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen, flying on a “through ticket”, meaning they can check in hold baggage at their departure airport straight through to their destination.
Some changes have been made to the Loganair operated routes covered by the agreement since 2017, with routes both being added and removed over the years. The most recent update to the agreement was announced on 1st February 2022.
The routes operated by Loganair which British Airways codeshare on of 1st February 2022 are:
[b]Updated: 31st May 2022]/b]
Aberdeen (ABZ) to/from:
Belfast City (BHD)
Birmingham (BHX)
Bristol (BRS)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Manchester (MAN)
Newquay (NQY)
Norwich (NWI)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Teesside (MME)
Derry (LDY) to/from:
Liverpool (LPL)
London Stansted (STN)
Edinburgh (EDI) to/from:
Exeter (EXT)
Isle of Man (IOM)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Southampton (SOU)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Glasgow (GLA) to/from:
Benbecula (BEB)
Exeter (EXT)
Islay (ILY)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Southampton (SOU)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Isle of Man (IOM) to/from:
Birmingham (BHX)
London City (LCY)
London Heathrow (LHR)
Manchester (MAN)
Inverness (INV) to/from:
Benbecula (BEB)
Birmingham (BHX)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Manchester (MAN)
Newquay (NQY)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Newcastle(NCL) to/from:
Exeter (EXT)
Southampton (SOU)
Newquay (NQY) to/from:
Manchester (MAN)
https://www.loganair.co.uk/
British Airways customers can book onward Loganair connections from destinations across its route network, or point to point travel in the UK more easily through ba.com. Executive Club members who book onto routes operated by Loganair through ba.com can earn Avios and Tier points.
Loganair customers are able to connect onto British Airways domestic services at Manchester, Inverness, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen, flying on a “through ticket”, meaning they can check in hold baggage at their departure airport straight through to their destination.
Some changes have been made to the Loganair operated routes covered by the agreement since 2017, with routes both being added and removed over the years. The most recent update to the agreement was announced on 1st February 2022.
The routes operated by Loganair which British Airways codeshare on of 1st February 2022 are:
[b]Updated: 31st May 2022]/b]
Aberdeen (ABZ) to/from:
Belfast City (BHD)
Birmingham (BHX)
Bristol (BRS)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Manchester (MAN)
Newquay (NQY)
Norwich (NWI)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Teesside (MME)
Derry (LDY) to/from:
Liverpool (LPL)
London Stansted (STN)
Edinburgh (EDI) to/from:
Exeter (EXT)
Isle of Man (IOM)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Southampton (SOU)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Glasgow (GLA) to/from:
Benbecula (BEB)
Exeter (EXT)
Islay (ILY)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Southampton (SOU)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Isle of Man (IOM) to/from:
Birmingham (BHX)
London City (LCY)
London Heathrow (LHR)
Manchester (MAN)
Inverness (INV) to/from:
Benbecula (BEB)
Birmingham (BHX)
Kirkwall (KOI)
Manchester (MAN)
Newquay (NQY)
Stornaway (SYY)
Sumburgh (LSI)
Newcastle(NCL) to/from:
Exeter (EXT)
Southampton (SOU)
Newquay (NQY) to/from:
Manchester (MAN)
https://www.loganair.co.uk/
Loganair Codeshare Agreememt
Feb 10, 2022, 9:01 am
#46
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Not quite, when Lufthansa was allowed to enter the previously closed shop Berlin market, BA were forced to leave as this predates the EU Open Skies agreement. Rather than abandon the market they bought a small West German outfit called Delta Air and over time this morphed into Deutsche BA flying B737s out of Tegel. BA inter German flying had to cease and the aircraft were redeployed in the UK, the displaced ATPs replacing the last of the HS748s to the Highlands and Islands for example.
Feb 10, 2022, 3:31 pm
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Not quite, when Lufthansa was allowed to enter the previously closed shop Berlin market, BA were forced to leave as this predates the EU Open Skies agreement. Rather than abandon the market they bought a small West German outfit called Delta Air and over time this morphed into Deutsche BA flying B737s out of Tegel. BA inter German flying had to cease and the aircraft were redeployed in the UK, the displaced ATPs replacing the last of the HS748s to the Highlands and Islands for example.
In the previous post you note that aircraft based as BHX and MAN were used to do internal flights within Germany but then you say that was different from the Delta Air outfit that they bought and later rebranded as Deutsche BA…
How does Berlin fit in? Did these developments happen before or after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
Feb 11, 2022, 8:20 am
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... Of course, there was no longer any Deutsche Lufthansa and even when the airline was re-established it was forbidden from serving Berlin.
All civil operations had to be operated by the airlines of the victorious powers – the USA, UK and France. These not only included services connecting to other capital cities but also domestic services that would become known as the IGS (Inter-German Services). ...
All civil operations had to be operated by the airlines of the victorious powers – the USA, UK and France. These not only included services connecting to other capital cities but also domestic services that would become known as the IGS (Inter-German Services). ...
Apr 22, 2022, 2:34 am
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Interestingly flying Loganair today, , GLA-EXT booked on BA, BA ticket, GCH: At BA lounge- “no lounge access in GLA when flying Loganair”
Me- “even when this is a BA ticket?”
“No, sorry!”
caught me out, but no drama.
just a data point for anyone else doing similar.
Me- “even when this is a BA ticket?”
“No, sorry!”
caught me out, but no drama.
just a data point for anyone else doing similar.
Apr 22, 2022, 2:37 am
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the lounge agent was actually wrong in this instance. if you are on a BA codeshare, booked on a BA issued 125-... ticket, and a BA gold card holder, you should get access to the BA lounge.
Apr 22, 2022, 3:29 am
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This is really quite unusual for GLA, as the agents seem very switched on. Perhaps worth the Op making it known on return? (Assuming returning to Glasgow?). Most certainly if on BA ticket flying Loganair, access should be available.as Gold and indeed if Silver.
Apr 22, 2022, 6:12 am
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Apr 22, 2022, 6:19 am
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Apr 23, 2022, 3:55 am
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was the same lady on the desk when I returned a few hours later- was doing a back to back at EXT, so I didn’t see the value in having the same conversation again. She was quite adamant during the discussion, even in so far as to tell me I would get avois and TP’s for the flight, but no lounge.
Apr 23, 2022, 4:08 am
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was the same lady on the desk when I returned a few hours later- was doing a back to back at EXT, so I didn’t see the value in having the same conversation again. She was quite adamant during the discussion, even in so far as to tell me I would get avois and TP’s for the flight, but no lounge.
Last edited by KARFA; Apr 23, 2022 at 12:05 pm
Apr 23, 2022, 7:55 am
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For the GLA/SOU I had a Loganair paper boarding card with an LM flight number. I scanned this actual boarding pass at the BA lounge and got the green tick for entry. I'm a GCH.
Apr 23, 2022, 12:01 pm
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I concur. Last week I flew LHR / GLA in CE and onwards GLA / SOU on Loganair which was booked on one itinerary on BA.com with a BA flight number.
For the GLA/SOU I had a Loganair paper boarding card with an LM flight number. I scanned this actual boarding pass at the BA lounge and got the green tick for entry. I'm a GCH.
For the GLA/SOU I had a Loganair paper boarding card with an LM flight number. I scanned this actual boarding pass at the BA lounge and got the green tick for entry. I'm a GCH.
Apr 23, 2022, 2:54 pm
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Quick question on Loganair flights as BA codeshares - have just booked LHR to Teesside for a trip home, something that I havent done since BMI disappeared!
Was surprised to find the BA codeshare £20 cheaper than direct from Loganair's Fly fare with 15kg allowance, while our etickets show BA's standard 23kg allowance.
The BA PNR also works on the Loganair site MMB, and on there we can see we have been pre-allocated seats, but with no option to change them (BA MMB doenst mention seating at all).
A fresh booking on the Loganair for the same flights now shows these seats as occupied.
Is it likely that we can change these before checkin opens (eg by calling loganair) or during checkin? The current seats in row 12 arent too bad on a ERJ-145, but if it changes to a 135 those seats are going to be very close to the back of the cabin & the engines.
Was surprised to find the BA codeshare £20 cheaper than direct from Loganair's Fly fare with 15kg allowance, while our etickets show BA's standard 23kg allowance.
The BA PNR also works on the Loganair site MMB, and on there we can see we have been pre-allocated seats, but with no option to change them (BA MMB doenst mention seating at all).
A fresh booking on the Loganair for the same flights now shows these seats as occupied.
Is it likely that we can change these before checkin opens (eg by calling loganair) or during checkin? The current seats in row 12 arent too bad on a ERJ-145, but if it changes to a 135 those seats are going to be very close to the back of the cabin & the engines.
Apr 23, 2022, 3:04 pm
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It's a very short flight, as a tough Northerner I'm sure you'll manage! But usually online check-in works on the web (but not App) version of MMB, and they just give you the allocated seat - no seat selection. I haven't tried calling the Glasgow contact centre to change it, but they have an admirable record for customer service, but I have managed to change it at the airport desk without issue, plus I suspect the crew on board will be very happy for you to move after the weight checks have been done, maybe after take-off.
Apr 24, 2022, 12:59 pm
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Quick question on Loganair flights as BA codeshares - have just booked LHR to Teesside for a trip home, something that I havent done since BMI disappeared!
Was surprised to find the BA codeshare £20 cheaper than direct from Loganair's Fly fare with 15kg allowance, while our etickets show BA's standard 23kg allowance.
The BA PNR also works on the Loganair site MMB, and on there we can see we have been pre-allocated seats, but with no option to change them (BA MMB doenst mention seating at all).
A fresh booking on the Loganair for the same flights now shows these seats as occupied.
Is it likely that we can change these before checkin opens (eg by calling loganair) or during checkin? The current seats in row 12 arent too bad on a ERJ-145, but if it changes to a 135 those seats are going to be very close to the back of the cabin & the engines.
Was surprised to find the BA codeshare £20 cheaper than direct from Loganair's Fly fare with 15kg allowance, while our etickets show BA's standard 23kg allowance.
The BA PNR also works on the Loganair site MMB, and on there we can see we have been pre-allocated seats, but with no option to change them (BA MMB doenst mention seating at all).
A fresh booking on the Loganair for the same flights now shows these seats as occupied.
Is it likely that we can change these before checkin opens (eg by calling loganair) or during checkin? The current seats in row 12 arent too bad on a ERJ-145, but if it changes to a 135 those seats are going to be very close to the back of the cabin & the engines.