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The 2021/22 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation EC261/2004
#1801
Join Date: May 2016
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I’ve seen your note on the despatch codes which was interesting - and perhaps I should know this, but how does joe bloggs like me find out the code for the flight that was cancelled?
#1802
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Ask in this thread within 2 days of the flight in question, and someone will look it up on paid for ExpertFlyer or other Amadeus source. But after a few days that data is lost so it is imperative not to leave it for a few days.
#1803
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Hi CWS, I’ve asked a couple of times but haven’t got very far. I have a paid-for sub to EF but I can’t find any glossary for the cancellation or delay codes to understand what they are. Do you know where I can find these please? Thank you.
#1804
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There isn’t one, but they are all fairly obvious, these are ones seen quite often:
CCRY - cabin crew, yes for compensation
FCRY - flight crew, yes for compensation
OPEY - operational issue, yes for compensation
INDN - industrial action, no for compensation
WEAN - weather, no for compensation
TECY - technical issue with plane, yes for compensation
CCRY - cabin crew, yes for compensation
FCRY - flight crew, yes for compensation
OPEY - operational issue, yes for compensation
INDN - industrial action, no for compensation
WEAN - weather, no for compensation
TECY - technical issue with plane, yes for compensation
#1805
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There isn't one that I've come across. I have simply memorised most of them. I'll add HDL (handling), SEC (security), ARP / APR (airport) CREW and OPER as alternatives to Crew and operational.
#1806
Join Date: Apr 2014
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There isn’t one, but they are all fairly obvious, these are ones seen quite often:
CCRY - cabin crew, yes for compensation
FCRY - flight crew, yes for compensation
OPEY - operational issue, yes for compensation
INDN - industrial action, no for compensation
WEAN - weather, no for compensation
TECY - technical issue with plane, yes for compensation
CCRY - cabin crew, yes for compensation
FCRY - flight crew, yes for compensation
OPEY - operational issue, yes for compensation
INDN - industrial action, no for compensation
WEAN - weather, no for compensation
TECY - technical issue with plane, yes for compensation
#1807
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA, TK, UA, HH
Posts: 52
BA cancelled flight BA-737 GVA-LHR just a few hours before departure today 14 July. How do I find out the reason for cancellation, so that I can apply for compensation and re-imbursement? BA MMB does not show any availability until Sunday and no one on BA gold line is answering the phone, so I have now booked myself with Air France for tomorrow morning 15 July GVA-CDG-LHR and have paid £771 (ridiculously expensive) plus one night at Hilton Geneva Airport (CHF 235). How soon should I submit my flight reimbursement via BA webpage?
Many thanks for any advice
Many thanks for any advice
#1808
Join Date: Jan 2016
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BA cancelled flight BA-737 GVA-LHR just a few hours before departure today 14 July. How do I find out the reason for cancellation, so that I can apply for compensation and re-imbursement? BA MMB does not show any availability until Sunday and no one on BA gold line is answering the phone, so I have now booked myself with Air France for tomorrow morning 15 July GVA-CDG-LHR and have paid £771 (ridiculously expensive) plus one night at Hilton Geneva Airport (CHF 235). How soon should I submit my flight reimbursement via BA webpage?
Many thanks for any advice
Many thanks for any advice
DOBA737/14JUL
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * BA 737 0 TH 14JUL22
CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL)
FLIGHT CANCELLED 1021
HDLY
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* BA 737 0 TH 14JUL22
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
GVA 2115 TH JCDRIUFAZ/M Y/G 320 1:35
BHKMLVNOQSG/G
XWETP/G
LHR 2150 TH 1:35
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * BA 737 0 TH 14JUL22
CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL)
FLIGHT CANCELLED 1021
HDLY
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* BA 737 0 TH 14JUL22
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
GVA 2115 TH JCDRIUFAZ/M Y/G 320 1:35
BHKMLVNOQSG/G
XWETP/G
LHR 2150 TH 1:35
#1809
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@ S_W_S Many thanks.
#1810
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HDLY is eligible for compensation and re-imbusrement? right?
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#1812
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For what it's worth, BA followed up after a couple of weeks and said I was due the full 250 EUR per person without the 50% discount. Not sure why they chose this, but I'm happy with the outcome.
#1813
Join Date: Feb 2014
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I’m lost. BA just cancelled a flight for mid-August, and have told me (in writing) that: “EU261 isn't applicable to cancellations this far in advance”.
Is that accurate?
For context, I’m just trying to get rebooked on a LHR-MAN flight (the route is fully booked on the other direct flights so trying to get LHR-DUB-MAN as the train options are during the RMT strike weekends! The LHR-DUB-MAN flights would still get me there before the next available direct LHR-MAN flights that are scheduled with availability). The flights I’m looking at are all BA-marketed as I can book them on the BA website though LHR-DUB is EI-operated.
I thought that UK261/EC261 is applicable here as there is no time limit for its relevance as it pertains to rebooking from cancellations. I think they might be thinking about the EC261 compensation and duty of care rules but I’m referring to the EC261 (and UK261) rebooking rules. I’m not sure though, as they wrote it so plainly that it made me question myself.
Is that accurate?
For context, I’m just trying to get rebooked on a LHR-MAN flight (the route is fully booked on the other direct flights so trying to get LHR-DUB-MAN as the train options are during the RMT strike weekends! The LHR-DUB-MAN flights would still get me there before the next available direct LHR-MAN flights that are scheduled with availability). The flights I’m looking at are all BA-marketed as I can book them on the BA website though LHR-DUB is EI-operated.
I thought that UK261/EC261 is applicable here as there is no time limit for its relevance as it pertains to rebooking from cancellations. I think they might be thinking about the EC261 compensation and duty of care rules but I’m referring to the EC261 (and UK261) rebooking rules. I’m not sure though, as they wrote it so plainly that it made me question myself.
Last edited by Simon Schus; Jul 14, 2022 at 10:33 pm
#1814
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
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Our initially delayed flight - that had a knock on effect on eventual arrival at our final US destination > 6hrs - left late because passengers weren’t boarding promptly.
Check in was chaos and security queues huge (MAD) - assume this should fall within the scope of EC261 compensation? Thanks in advance
Check in was chaos and security queues huge (MAD) - assume this should fall within the scope of EC261 compensation? Thanks in advance
#1815
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I’m lost. BA just cancelled a flight for mid-August, and have told me (in writing) that: “EU261 isn't applicable to cancellations this far in advance”.
Is that accurate?
For context, I’m just trying to get rebooked on a LHR-MAN flight (the route is fully booked on the other direct flights so trying to get LHR-DUB-MAN as the train options are during the RMT strike weekends! The LHR-DUB-MAN flights would still get me there before the next available direct LHR-MAN flights that are scheduled with availability). The flights I’m looking at are all BA-marketed as I can book them on the BA website though LHR-DUB is EI-operated.
I thought that UK261/EC261 is applicable here as there is no time limit for its relevance as it pertains to rebooking from cancellations. I think they might be thinking about the EC261 compensation and duty of care rules but I’m referring to the EC261 (and UK261) rebooking rules. I’m not sure though, as they wrote it so plainly that it made me question myself.
Is that accurate?
For context, I’m just trying to get rebooked on a LHR-MAN flight (the route is fully booked on the other direct flights so trying to get LHR-DUB-MAN as the train options are during the RMT strike weekends! The LHR-DUB-MAN flights would still get me there before the next available direct LHR-MAN flights that are scheduled with availability). The flights I’m looking at are all BA-marketed as I can book them on the BA website though LHR-DUB is EI-operated.
I thought that UK261/EC261 is applicable here as there is no time limit for its relevance as it pertains to rebooking from cancellations. I think they might be thinking about the EC261 compensation and duty of care rules but I’m referring to the EC261 (and UK261) rebooking rules. I’m not sure though, as they wrote it so plainly that it made me question myself.