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The 2021/22 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation EC261/2004
#1786
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 573
There isn't anything showing on this in EF, which is EDI-FLR. But looking at the aircraft's movements yesterday, when its final service was PMI to EDI, it got into Turnhouse over 90 minutes late, so I suspect the minimum rest period meant the delay to the crew being able to start today.
So in the end the outbound to FLR left nearly 2h 45 late with BA2344 back to EDI arriving just over 3hrs once the doors were opened.
BA have responded to my claim that 143 minutes of delay are accepted as their responsibility however the remainder is "partly due to air traffic flow management restrictions that were put in place by Air Traffic Control and 3rd party ground support and supply issues". They have responded saying they are unwilling to provide further details or breakdown of that chunk of time.
Considering that the flight arrived in FLR roughly 3 hours late, I'm not sure I agree that the remaining time was outside of their control. We had a small wait of probably 10 minutes of a slot to leave, but it is hardly extraordinary that you can't get a slot immediately if you rock up 3 hours after planned.
Is it worth pursuing this further through alternative channels?
#1787
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BAEC Gold. Hilton Diamond
Posts: 409
So in the end the outbound to FLR left nearly 2h 45 late with BA2344 back to EDI arriving just over 3hrs once the doors were opened.
BA have responded to my claim that 143 minutes of delay are accepted as their responsibility however the remainder is "partly due to air traffic flow management restrictions that were put in place by Air Traffic Control and 3rd party ground support and supply issues". They have responded saying they are unwilling to provide further details or breakdown of that chunk of time.
Considering that the flight arrived in FLR roughly 3 hours late, I'm not sure I agree that the remaining time was outside of their control. We had a small wait of probably 10 minutes of a slot to leave, but it is hardly extraordinary that you can't get a slot immediately if you rock up 3 hours after planned.
Is it worth pursuing this further through alternative channels?
BA have responded to my claim that 143 minutes of delay are accepted as their responsibility however the remainder is "partly due to air traffic flow management restrictions that were put in place by Air Traffic Control and 3rd party ground support and supply issues". They have responded saying they are unwilling to provide further details or breakdown of that chunk of time.
Considering that the flight arrived in FLR roughly 3 hours late, I'm not sure I agree that the remaining time was outside of their control. We had a small wait of probably 10 minutes of a slot to leave, but it is hardly extraordinary that you can't get a slot immediately if you rock up 3 hours after planned.
Is it worth pursuing this further through alternative channels?
#1788
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Considering that the flight arrived in FLR roughly 3 hours late, I'm not sure I agree that the remaining time was outside of their control. We had a small wait of probably 10 minutes of a slot to leave, but it is hardly extraordinary that you can't get a slot immediately if you rock up 3 hours after planned.
#1789
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Silver, Amex Platinum
Posts: 149
How long is it currently taking BA to reply to compensation claims (to confirm what they will or won’t make an offer) once you’ve receive the case reference email? Any data points? I can see huge variations upthread with some people getting responses in a couple of days and others waiting months.
#1790
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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How long is it currently taking BA to reply to compensation claims (to confirm what they will or won’t make an offer) once you’ve receive the case reference email? Any data points? I can see huge variations upthread with some people getting responses in a couple of days and others waiting months.
#1791
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/GFl, HH Diamond, BW Diamond, Virgin Voyages Deep Blue Extra, Blue Peter Badge Holder
Posts: 3,937
Indeed, by comparison though I’m still waiting for a response from AA for a flight that was on 4 May.
#1792
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 95
How long is it currently taking BA to reply to compensation claims (to confirm what they will or won’t make an offer) once you’ve receive the case reference email? Any data points? I can see huge variations upthread with some people getting responses in a couple of days and others waiting months.
#1793
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: UK (currently)
Programs: BA Gold (and many other greater and lesser distinctions)
Posts: 7,208
As a data point, BA has just agreed to pay the whole 100% compensation due on an EU to UK flight that was cancelled and on which I was moved to a flight more than 2 hours earlier. I attached a summary of the relevant ECJ judgment (downloaded from the ECJ website) to the claim and told them that I was due 100% and not their usual 50%. They obviously agreed with me. It took 3 weeks for the claim to be processed.
#1794
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: York, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Honors Diamond
Posts: 1,184
Quick one if I may, BA delayed me by approx 26 hours a few weeks ago flying long haul.
OSL-LHR early morning cancelled (due to Flight crew, EF shows Y to compensation) and rebooked on the evening flight, overnight in London then LHR-YYZ the next day.
I believe the €600 compensation and Heathrow hotel (just under £200) are an open and shut case, but what about onward transportation?
I had a Megabus booked at mid day the next day (more than 20 hours after the original scheduled arrival time) to Niagara Falls, unfortunately due to the delay and the infrequency of buses I had to take a private transfer. Will BA cover this? Or is it one for insurance.
Thank you.
OSL-LHR early morning cancelled (due to Flight crew, EF shows Y to compensation) and rebooked on the evening flight, overnight in London then LHR-YYZ the next day.
I believe the €600 compensation and Heathrow hotel (just under £200) are an open and shut case, but what about onward transportation?
I had a Megabus booked at mid day the next day (more than 20 hours after the original scheduled arrival time) to Niagara Falls, unfortunately due to the delay and the infrequency of buses I had to take a private transfer. Will BA cover this? Or is it one for insurance.
Thank you.
#1795
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,985
No they won’t cover that. Once they deliver you to your destination then they are done I am afraid.
#1796
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: York, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Honors Diamond
Posts: 1,184
Thanks, disappointing but I thought as much!
Only saving grace is they cancelled with enough notice for me to cancel my Toronto hotel booking without penalty...
Only saving grace is they cancelled with enough notice for me to cancel my Toronto hotel booking without penalty...
#1798
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 201
If a flight is cancelled less than 2 weeks out and no alternative flight is provided by BA, are we entitled to claim reimbursement for both the costs of getting to our destination ourselves and compensation of 250EUR as part of EU261? BA allowed my to select both options and I wonder how that works.
#1799
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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If a flight is cancelled less than 2 weeks out and no alternative flight is provided by BA, are we entitled to claim reimbursement for both the costs of getting to our destination ourselves and compensation of 250EUR as part of EU261? BA allowed my to select both options and I wonder how that works.