Dec 19, 2020, 10:20 am
Last edit by: realgaga
Latest guidance
From Heathrow Airport Limited, 22:14 GMT 19 Dec
Following UK Govt. advice, if you are in Tier 4, you should not be travelling unless it is legally permitted. If you’re in Tiers 1-3, you can still fly from Heathrow but should carefully consider whether you need to.
In light of the new tier restrictions, passengers should NOT plan unnecessary time at the airport. Please allow 2 hours ahead of departure for short haul flights and 3 hours for long haul flights.
More information can be found here
List of countries and territories currently restricting travel from the UK, from CWS's post 294, last updated at 18:30 GMT.
- Albania (till January 6th)
- Algeria
- Argentina
- Austria
- Belgium
- Brazil (post 589)
- Bulgaria
- Canada
- Chile
- China (Mainland)
- Colombia
- Croatia
- Czech Republic
- Dominican Republic (406)
- Ecuador
- El Salvador (also South Africa)
- Estonia
- France (48 hours for the moment)
- Finland
- Germany
- Gibraltar
- Hong Kong (also South Africa)
- Hungary
- India
- Iran
- Ireland
- Israel (also restricting Denmark and South Africa)
- Italy
- Jamaica (2 weeks, see post 397)
- Jordan
- Kuwait
- Latvia
- Lithuania
- Malta (339)
- Mauritius
- Morocco
- Netherlands
- North Macedonia
- Norway
- Oman (all countries)
- Pakistan
- Panama (also South Africa, post 409)
- Peru
- Poland
- Portugal
- Romania (from this afternoon, this morning's flight has gone ahead).
- Russia (1 week for now)
- Saudi Arabia
- Seychelles (until end of Jan - ref BA Holidays agent)(461)
- Singapore (from 2359 on Dec 23)
- Slovakia
- Spain (343)
- Sweden (also Denmark) (362)
- Switzerland (also South Africa)
- Tunisia
- Turkey (also Denmark, NL.)
From Heathrow Airport Limited, 22:14 GMT 19 Dec
Following UK Govt. advice, if you are in Tier 4, you should not be travelling unless it is legally permitted. If you’re in Tiers 1-3, you can still fly from Heathrow but should carefully consider whether you need to.
In light of the new tier restrictions, passengers should NOT plan unnecessary time at the airport. Please allow 2 hours ahead of departure for short haul flights and 3 hours for long haul flights.
More information can be found here
List of countries and territories currently restricting travel from the UK, from CWS's post 294, last updated at 18:30 GMT.
- Albania (till January 6th)
- Algeria
- Argentina
- Austria
- Belgium
- Brazil (post 589)
- Bulgaria
- Canada
- Chile
- China (Mainland)
- Colombia
- Croatia
- Czech Republic
- Dominican Republic (406)
- Ecuador
- El Salvador (also South Africa)
- Estonia
- France (48 hours for the moment)
- Finland
- Germany
- Gibraltar
- Hong Kong (also South Africa)
- Hungary
- India
- Iran
- Ireland
- Israel (also restricting Denmark and South Africa)
- Italy
- Jamaica (2 weeks, see post 397)
- Jordan
- Kuwait
- Latvia
- Lithuania
- Malta (339)
- Mauritius
- Morocco
- Netherlands
- North Macedonia
- Norway
- Oman (all countries)
- Pakistan
- Panama (also South Africa, post 409)
- Peru
- Poland
- Portugal
- Romania (from this afternoon, this morning's flight has gone ahead).
- Russia (1 week for now)
- Saudi Arabia
- Seychelles (until end of Jan - ref BA Holidays agent)(461)
- Singapore (from 2359 on Dec 23)
- Slovakia
- Spain (343)
- Sweden (also Denmark) (362)
- Switzerland (also South Africa)
- Tunisia
- Turkey (also Denmark, NL.)
London/SE England in Tier 4 + countries with UK flight ban : impact on BA travel
Dec 19, 2020, 4:42 pm
#121
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Dec 19, 2020, 4:44 pm
#122
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This is called 'FlyerTalk' and is primarily designed for people who travel to discuss travel plans and travel programmes. It is not 'Medical Council Talk' or 'Doctors Forum' or 'Pandemic Stoppers'.
Dec 19, 2020, 4:58 pm
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Note that the data controller should be making this decision and this decision making power is unlikely to be widely delegated out, and almost certainly not to your average staff member that the plod are likely to trip up over at their airport.
There may of course be some prearranged way for law enforcement to get hold of airline passenger details, eg. via advanced passenger information
Dec 19, 2020, 5:28 pm
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You are kinda both right. It doesn't *need* a court order, but it's up to the discretion of the Data Controller to be satisfied that the request to access data is necessary.
Note that the data controller should be making this decision and this decision making power is unlikely to be widely delegated out, and almost certainly not to your average staff member that the plod are likely to trip up over at their airport.
There may of course be some prearranged way for law enforcement to get hold of airline passenger details, eg. via advanced passenger information
Note that the data controller should be making this decision and this decision making power is unlikely to be widely delegated out, and almost certainly not to your average staff member that the plod are likely to trip up over at their airport.
There may of course be some prearranged way for law enforcement to get hold of airline passenger details, eg. via advanced passenger information
Penalty for not providing details is a level 3 fine (£1k?), and when police issues a fine, you have to state your name and address anyways, otherwise you get arrested, so it's a lose-lose situation.
Dec 19, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Indeed and it will be the same people moaning when BA doesn’t extend status because people haven’t been able,to retain their tiers because they can’t travel to places as no country wants to let us in.
Dec 19, 2020, 5:38 pm
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Considering the EU/EEA/CH are banning us after Jan 1st, the places we can go within the BA network will be Brazil, Mexico, Costa Rica, Jamaica, Antigua, Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Albania, Kenya, South Africa and Turkey. As most of those are tourism reliant or run by leaders who do not support restrictions, I do not see them banning us anytime soon. News today is the US is away to lift the ban on UK entrants next week.
Dec 19, 2020, 6:03 pm
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For anyone needing to go to the Netherlands, you need to read this:
https://www.ifn.news/posts/the-nethe...l-from-the-uk/
https://www.ifn.news/posts/the-nethe...l-from-the-uk/
Dec 19, 2020, 6:09 pm
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For anyone needing to go to the Netherlands, you need to read this:
https://www.ifn.news/posts/the-nethe...l-from-the-uk/
https://www.ifn.news/posts/the-nethe...l-from-the-uk/
Dec 19, 2020, 6:17 pm
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Netherlands to ban flights from UK from 6am 20 Dec
As the title infers, the Netherlands have banned flights from the UK from 6am on 20 Dec until at least 1 January whilst they review the implications of the new strain of covid.
I wonder how many countries will follow? Might make property hunting for the entitled difficult over the holiday period.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776679.html
I wonder how many countries will follow? Might make property hunting for the entitled difficult over the holiday period.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776679.html
Dec 19, 2020, 6:20 pm
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As the title infers, the Netherlands have banned flights from the UK from 6am on 20 Dec until at least 1 January whilst they review the implications of the new strain of covid.
I wonder how many countries will follow? Might make property hunting for the entitled difficult over the holiday period.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776679.html
I wonder how many countries will follow? Might make property hunting for the entitled difficult over the holiday period.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776679.html
The Dutch ban is not too big a deal for UK based flyers though as we are banned from going there from January 1st anyway. Its likely that people holiday home hunting in Mexico, Maldives, Dominican Republic, Brazil etc will be fine as those places are very relaxed now and want the tourists.
Dec 19, 2020, 6:25 pm
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It’s funny that amid all the flurry or Tier 4 posts, not one makes reference to the rationale for the more stringent approach, a variant of the disease that is in widespread circulation in this specific area that is 70% more communicable than an already dangerous disease to the vulnerable.
The inherent selfishness of many is frankly depressing and whilst I understand the valid questions from those seeking to clarify how the emerging rules/guidance apply to their situation, I’m extremely disappointed at the continued tolerance of extended discussion about the likelihood of enforcement of rules.
I’ve been around here long enough to have seen a poster hounded out for nicking a job lot of Kettle chips from the lounge. Talk about misguided priorities.
The inherent selfishness of many is frankly depressing and whilst I understand the valid questions from those seeking to clarify how the emerging rules/guidance apply to their situation, I’m extremely disappointed at the continued tolerance of extended discussion about the likelihood of enforcement of rules.
I’ve been around here long enough to have seen a poster hounded out for nicking a job lot of Kettle chips from the lounge. Talk about misguided priorities.
Dec 19, 2020, 6:35 pm
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Folks,
This thread is meandering wildly so I need to request that comments are constrained to BA activities and specific BA travel concerns. The COVID and U.K. and Ireland forums are always available for discussion of the wider issues
Prospero
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This thread is meandering wildly so I need to request that comments are constrained to BA activities and specific BA travel concerns. The COVID and U.K. and Ireland forums are always available for discussion of the wider issues
Prospero
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Dec 19, 2020, 10:38 pm
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Well after sleeping on it I have decided to cancel our holiday to UAE on Tuesday.
Yes ive seen their work arounds and that the chances are slim to be asked at the airport but the travel agent has advised that last time a few of his customers did get stopped.
All in all in my eyes its not worth the risk for a few days of R&R and with whats going on in the world and the grand scheme of things this is 1st world problems!
Yes ive seen their work arounds and that the chances are slim to be asked at the airport but the travel agent has advised that last time a few of his customers did get stopped.
All in all in my eyes its not worth the risk for a few days of R&R and with whats going on in the world and the grand scheme of things this is 1st world problems!