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Are you trying to change your BA password and having difficulty doing so? For some suggestions, go to this wikipost.
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On Thursday 6 September 2018 at about 1830 London time (UTC+1), BA announced that there had been a data breach involving customers using the BA website and the BA mobile app.
Updates from BA are being posted to this ba.com page: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...st-information
A further update dated 25 October 2018 can be found in this post 1377. The SPG Law class action thread can be found here.
As at 1400 London time on Tuesday 11 September 2018, the body of that page read:-
That is followed by a series of FAQs. These are reproduced at the end of this wikipost.
If you are experiencing difficulties in changing your BA password or want further information about doing so, some information is in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...rd-ba-com.html (which also has a wikipost).
Reports from FTers suggest that credit card companies and banks are taking differing approaches to this incident:-
As of Wednesday 12th September, affected customers are being emailed with the following additional information
Note that the email from BA gives you a personal "Activation Code". However, when you get to the signup forms for ProtectMyID, you put the code into the second page of the sign up form in the "Promotional Code" field.
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On Thursday 6 September 2018 at about 1830 London time (UTC+1), BA announced that there had been a data breach involving customers using the BA website and the BA mobile app.
Updates from BA are being posted to this ba.com page: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...st-information
A further update dated 25 October 2018 can be found in this post 1377. The SPG Law class action thread can be found here.
As at 1400 London time on Tuesday 11 September 2018, the body of that page read:-
Customer data theft
We are investigating, as a matter of urgency, the theft of customer data between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018 from our website, ba.com, and our mobile app.
The stolen data included personal and financial details of customers making bookings and changes on ba.com and the airline’s app. The data did not include travel or passport details.
The theft has been reported to the authorities and our website is now working normally.
What to do if you have been affected
If you believe you may have been affected because you made a booking or paid to change to your booking with a credit or debit card on ba.com or the mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018, we recommend you contact your bank or credit card provider and follow their advice.
We understand that this incident will cause concern and inconvenience. We are contacting all affected customers to say sorry, and we will continue to update them in the coming days.
Phishing
Customers should also be aware that fraudsters may be claiming to be British Airways and attempt to gather personal information by deception (known as 'phishing').
We will not be contacting any customers asking for payment card details and any such requests should be reported to the police and relevant authorities.
See below for more information on how to validate that the email you have received from us is genuine.
We are investigating, as a matter of urgency, the theft of customer data between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018 from our website, ba.com, and our mobile app.
The stolen data included personal and financial details of customers making bookings and changes on ba.com and the airline’s app. The data did not include travel or passport details.
The theft has been reported to the authorities and our website is now working normally.
What to do if you have been affected
If you believe you may have been affected because you made a booking or paid to change to your booking with a credit or debit card on ba.com or the mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 until 21:45 BST September 5 2018, we recommend you contact your bank or credit card provider and follow their advice.
We understand that this incident will cause concern and inconvenience. We are contacting all affected customers to say sorry, and we will continue to update them in the coming days.
Phishing
Customers should also be aware that fraudsters may be claiming to be British Airways and attempt to gather personal information by deception (known as 'phishing').
We will not be contacting any customers asking for payment card details and any such requests should be reported to the police and relevant authorities.
See below for more information on how to validate that the email you have received from us is genuine.
If you are experiencing difficulties in changing your BA password or want further information about doing so, some information is in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...rd-ba-com.html (which also has a wikipost).
Reports from FTers suggest that credit card companies and banks are taking differing approaches to this incident:-
- American Express - A recorded message says they are aware of the breach, there is no need to take any further action and if you suffer any financial loss you will be fully compensated; an email says: "There is no action you need to take – we will contact you immediately if there's any unusual activity with your Account. In the meantime you can continue to use your Card as normal" (see post 293, post 401, post 470 and post 491).
- Barclaycard - They just assured me I was fully protected, and I didn't need to do anything yet (see post 253); however at 18.20 on 7/9/18 the customer service helpline automated message says that affected cards are being reissued (see post 511).
- Barclays Bank - They have contacted people they believe to have been affected, and have blocked their cards from online use (website/app), but the cards remain valid for physical (chip & PIN) transactions in shops, ATMs etc. New cards being dispatched "within a week" (see post 918).
- Capital One - online transactions being blocked, new cards being issued (see post 493).
- Chase (British Airways visa) - no contact from Chase about data breach and card still working
- HSBC Premier Mastercard - Offering customers the option to freeze the card or replace it with a new card (see post 274).
- Lloyds - Said "wait and see", but did give the option to cancel the card and have it reissued (see post 403).
- Lloyds Mastercard - Based on the information they have, fraudulent use of my card is unlikely, just keep an eye on online banking and report anything suspicious (see post 370).
- Monzo - Automatically replacing all cards (see post 371).
- Natwest- Of the opinion that as there had been no fraudulent activity on my account to just keep an eye on things, and to call immediately if any suspicious transactions appear and fraud team would refund (post 315).
- Sainsburys Bank - seem to be replacing all cards proactively (see post 968)
- Starling - Automatically replacing cards (see post 460).
- Tesco Bank - Pro-actively sending a new card as per details in this post (post 484)
- TSB - Call the Telephone Banking Team on 03459 758758 to discuss further (see post 437).
- Vanquis - online transactions being blocked, new cards being issued (see post 493).
Have I been affected?
How do I know if I have been affected?
Customers who made bookings or changes to their bookings on ba.com or our mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 may have been affected.
We advise any customers who believe they may have been affected to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
We are experiencing high call volumes into our contact centres so please continue to check this page for the latest information.
Contact us
What data has been lost?
The personal and financial details of customers making bookings on ba.com and our mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 was compromised. No passport or travel details were stolen. Only customers who made bookings between these dates are affected.
Names, billing address, email address and all bank card details were all at risk.
Did this affect just new bookings or any payment transaction made within the impacted time period?
All payment transactions made on ba.com or our mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21 2018 to 21:45 September 5 2018 inclusive were affected. Nothing before or after these dates and times was impacted. Payments made through our call centres, travel agents or online travel sites are not affected.
Are my saved payment card details safe if they were used to make a booking in that period?
If you made a payment using a saved card on ba.com or the mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 to 21:45 September 5, 2018 inclusive, you may have been impacted.
No Executive Club accounts were compromised in the data theft. There is no impact to Avios or details stored with the British Airways Executive Club.
Has saved credit card data been stolen, even if a booking hasn’t been made in that period?
No, saved payment card data has not been compromised. However, if you made a payment using a saved card on ba.com or the mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 to 21:45 September 5, 2018 inclusive, you may have been impacted.
How were phone numbers not affected?
Phone number information is collected in a separate part of the booking process and is not used as part of the payment transaction therefore this has not been impacted.
I used PayPal to pay for my ba.com transaction. Is this impacted?
If you booked through PayPal, your PayPal account will not have been compromised. There does remain the risk that some of your personal information such as your name and address may have been accessed. No passport details or travel details were compromised.
Is Apple Pay affected?
If you used Apple Pay via the mobile app then your data will not have been compromised.
I had a failed payment attempt during the affected time period – am I affected?
If you clicked the pay button on ba.com then the transaction would have taken place even if the outcome was unsuccessful and the data would have been compromised.
We advise any concerned customers to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
Will I be affected if I made a free change to my booking but my payment card details were saved in the reservation?
If you made a free change to your booking via ba.com and did not use your payment card as part of that transaction, then you will not have been impacted.
Are travel agent bookings affected?
Only bookings or changes to bookings made directly with ba.com or the mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 were affected.
If a change was made to a travel agent booking on ba.com and payment made for an additional product, such as seat reservations or excess baggage, then these would be affected.
Does this affect Executive Club accounts in any way? i.e. missing Avios/ Tier Points
No accounts were compromised in the data theft. There is no impact to Avios or details stored with the British Airways Executive Club.
I received an email about the data theft, however I only cancelled a booking during this time – will I be affected?
If you cancelled and refunded your booking between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 September 5, 2018, you will not have been impacted.
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What should I do if I think I am affected?
Should I call my bank or cancel my credit cards?
We recommend that all customers who made bookings or changes to their bookings with ba.com or the mobile app, between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018, contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
I think my card was compromised when I made a booking on ba.com outside of the time period – what should I do?
The data theft relates to customer bookings made or changed between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 September 5, 2018 only.
We advise any concerned customers to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
How would I know if I have been a victim of identity theft?
There are a number of signs to look out for that may indicate that you might have been a victim of identity theft:-
If you are concerned about an email, we recommend that you don't click on any links, open any documents or reply to it until you have looked into it further.
Official emails relating to this theft will be sent from: [email protected]. You should hover over the sent email address to confirm this is where the email has been sent from before clicking on it.
British Airways will never proactively contact you to request your personal or confidential information. If you ever receive an email or call, claiming to be from us, requesting this information, please report it to us straight away.
We've put the details of the scams we're aware of on our ba.com website security page. There's also security essentials information to help you, along with details of how to report any new scams to us (or other emails/calls that have concerned you).
Will I be reimbursed?
We take the protection of our customers’ data seriously and are very sorry for the concern that this criminal activity has caused.
We will continue to keep our customers updated with the very latest information.
No customer will be out of pocket as a direct result of the criminal theft of data from ba.com and the airline’s mobile app. Any customer who made a booking between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5 2018 will be reimbursed for any fraudulent activity on their accounts as a direct result of the data theft and we shall advise the process for this in due course.
We will be offering a 12-month credit rating monitoring service to any affected customer who is concerned about an impact to their credit rating, provided by specialists in the field and will share details of this in the near future.
Will BA pay for costs associated with getting new cards, e.g. postage costs?
No customer will be out of pocket as a direct result of the criminal theft of data from ba.com and the airline’s mobile app. We are working through the process and will update our customers as soon as we can.
How do I reset my ba.com password?
ba.com and Executive Club accounts have not been compromised and your login details are safe.
However, if you’d like to change your password, first ensure you are logged out of ba.com and click the Forgotten Pin/Password link on the top right-hand corner of the homepage. We recommend you choose a unique password that you do not use for any other online account.
We are aware of some customers experiencing intermittent issues when attempting to reset their passwords. We are working on resolving this as quickly as possible.
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How does this affect my bookings?
What shall I do if I am due to travel today?
The incident has been resolved and all systems are working normally so customers due to travel can check-in online as normal.
Will I still be able to check in?
Yes, all customers booked on our flights will be able to check in as normal.
Will this affect any future bookings?
The incident has been resolved and ba.com is working normally so future bookings will not be affected.
Will bookings made over the period of this incident remain confirmed?
Yes, all bookings made remain valid for travel.
If I cancelled the card my booking was made with what do I need to bring to the airport?
The payment card that was used to pay for the booking should be brought to the airport if you are the owner of the card and are travelling. However, if the payment card has expired since the booking was made and you have a new card, or you don't have the original card used for payment, please print out a copy of your flight itinerary from Manage my Booking.
I have now cancelled my credit card, but I had used that card to make a future flight booking, so how will I be able to access that booking?
You do not need to enter your payment card details when retrieving an existing booking via Manage My Booking on ba.com, so access to future booking is not restricted due to the cancellation of the payment card.
How do I know if I have been affected?
Customers who made bookings or changes to their bookings on ba.com or our mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 may have been affected.
We advise any customers who believe they may have been affected to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
We are experiencing high call volumes into our contact centres so please continue to check this page for the latest information.
Contact us
What data has been lost?
The personal and financial details of customers making bookings on ba.com and our mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 was compromised. No passport or travel details were stolen. Only customers who made bookings between these dates are affected.
Names, billing address, email address and all bank card details were all at risk.
Did this affect just new bookings or any payment transaction made within the impacted time period?
All payment transactions made on ba.com or our mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21 2018 to 21:45 September 5 2018 inclusive were affected. Nothing before or after these dates and times was impacted. Payments made through our call centres, travel agents or online travel sites are not affected.
Are my saved payment card details safe if they were used to make a booking in that period?
If you made a payment using a saved card on ba.com or the mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 to 21:45 September 5, 2018 inclusive, you may have been impacted.
No Executive Club accounts were compromised in the data theft. There is no impact to Avios or details stored with the British Airways Executive Club.
Has saved credit card data been stolen, even if a booking hasn’t been made in that period?
No, saved payment card data has not been compromised. However, if you made a payment using a saved card on ba.com or the mobile app from 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 to 21:45 September 5, 2018 inclusive, you may have been impacted.
How were phone numbers not affected?
Phone number information is collected in a separate part of the booking process and is not used as part of the payment transaction therefore this has not been impacted.
I used PayPal to pay for my ba.com transaction. Is this impacted?
If you booked through PayPal, your PayPal account will not have been compromised. There does remain the risk that some of your personal information such as your name and address may have been accessed. No passport details or travel details were compromised.
Is Apple Pay affected?
If you used Apple Pay via the mobile app then your data will not have been compromised.
I had a failed payment attempt during the affected time period – am I affected?
If you clicked the pay button on ba.com then the transaction would have taken place even if the outcome was unsuccessful and the data would have been compromised.
We advise any concerned customers to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
Will I be affected if I made a free change to my booking but my payment card details were saved in the reservation?
If you made a free change to your booking via ba.com and did not use your payment card as part of that transaction, then you will not have been impacted.
Are travel agent bookings affected?
Only bookings or changes to bookings made directly with ba.com or the mobile app between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018 were affected.
If a change was made to a travel agent booking on ba.com and payment made for an additional product, such as seat reservations or excess baggage, then these would be affected.
Does this affect Executive Club accounts in any way? i.e. missing Avios/ Tier Points
No accounts were compromised in the data theft. There is no impact to Avios or details stored with the British Airways Executive Club.
I received an email about the data theft, however I only cancelled a booking during this time – will I be affected?
If you cancelled and refunded your booking between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 September 5, 2018, you will not have been impacted.
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What should I do if I think I am affected?
Should I call my bank or cancel my credit cards?
We recommend that all customers who made bookings or changes to their bookings with ba.com or the mobile app, between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5, 2018, contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
I think my card was compromised when I made a booking on ba.com outside of the time period – what should I do?
The data theft relates to customer bookings made or changed between 22:58 BST August 21, 2018 and 21:45 September 5, 2018 only.
We advise any concerned customers to contact their banks or credit card providers and follow their advice.
How would I know if I have been a victim of identity theft?
There are a number of signs to look out for that may indicate that you might have been a victim of identity theft:-
- Post from your bank or utility provider doesn’t arrive.
- You apply for state benefits, but are told you are already claiming.
- Refused financial services, credit cards or a loan, despite having a good credit rating.
- Receiving letters in your name from solicitors or debt collectors for debts that aren’t yours.
- Request a copy of your credit file to check for any suspicious credit applications.
- Report the theft of personal information and suspicious credit applications to the police and ask for a crime reference number.
- If fraud has been committed, contact Action Fraud.
If you are concerned about an email, we recommend that you don't click on any links, open any documents or reply to it until you have looked into it further.
Official emails relating to this theft will be sent from: [email protected]. You should hover over the sent email address to confirm this is where the email has been sent from before clicking on it.
British Airways will never proactively contact you to request your personal or confidential information. If you ever receive an email or call, claiming to be from us, requesting this information, please report it to us straight away.
We've put the details of the scams we're aware of on our ba.com website security page. There's also security essentials information to help you, along with details of how to report any new scams to us (or other emails/calls that have concerned you).
Will I be reimbursed?
We take the protection of our customers’ data seriously and are very sorry for the concern that this criminal activity has caused.
We will continue to keep our customers updated with the very latest information.
No customer will be out of pocket as a direct result of the criminal theft of data from ba.com and the airline’s mobile app. Any customer who made a booking between 22:58 BST August 21 2018 and 21:45 BST September 5 2018 will be reimbursed for any fraudulent activity on their accounts as a direct result of the data theft and we shall advise the process for this in due course.
We will be offering a 12-month credit rating monitoring service to any affected customer who is concerned about an impact to their credit rating, provided by specialists in the field and will share details of this in the near future.
Will BA pay for costs associated with getting new cards, e.g. postage costs?
No customer will be out of pocket as a direct result of the criminal theft of data from ba.com and the airline’s mobile app. We are working through the process and will update our customers as soon as we can.
How do I reset my ba.com password?
ba.com and Executive Club accounts have not been compromised and your login details are safe.
However, if you’d like to change your password, first ensure you are logged out of ba.com and click the Forgotten Pin/Password link on the top right-hand corner of the homepage. We recommend you choose a unique password that you do not use for any other online account.
We are aware of some customers experiencing intermittent issues when attempting to reset their passwords. We are working on resolving this as quickly as possible.
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How does this affect my bookings?
What shall I do if I am due to travel today?
The incident has been resolved and all systems are working normally so customers due to travel can check-in online as normal.
Will I still be able to check in?
Yes, all customers booked on our flights will be able to check in as normal.
Will this affect any future bookings?
The incident has been resolved and ba.com is working normally so future bookings will not be affected.
Will bookings made over the period of this incident remain confirmed?
Yes, all bookings made remain valid for travel.
If I cancelled the card my booking was made with what do I need to bring to the airport?
The payment card that was used to pay for the booking should be brought to the airport if you are the owner of the card and are travelling. However, if the payment card has expired since the booking was made and you have a new card, or you don't have the original card used for payment, please print out a copy of your flight itinerary from Manage my Booking.
I have now cancelled my credit card, but I had used that card to make a future flight booking, so how will I be able to access that booking?
You do not need to enter your payment card details when retrieving an existing booking via Manage My Booking on ba.com, so access to future booking is not restricted due to the cancellation of the payment card.
We deeply apologise for any worry and inconvenience this criminal activity has caused. For your reassurance, we’re offering you 12 months of free credit and identity monitoring services, provided by Experian, one of the UK’s leading Credit Reference agencies.
Your free ProtectMyID membership
To help you to monitor your personal information for certain signs of potential identity theft, we are offering you a free 12 month membership to Experian ProtectMyID. This service helps detect possible misuse of your personal data and provides you with identity monitoring support, focussed on the identification and resolution of identity theft.
Activating your free ProtectMyID membership
1. Ensure that you sign up for the service by 12 December 2018. Your code expires after this date.
2. Visit the ProtectMyID website to get started.
3. Click on ‘Join ProtectMyID’ (top right-hand side).
4. Enter your details along with the following activation code: XXXXXXXX
This code is unique to you and only available in this email – please keep this email for reference.
Once your membership is activated, you’ll have access to the following features:
1. Unlimited access to your Experian Credit Report.
2. Credit Alerting – an email or text to let you know when certain changes happen on your Experian Credit Report, such as the addition of a new credit search.
3. Access to an Identity Theft Resolution service if you do become a victim of fraud, where you’ll have a dedicated case worker who will support you in resolving fraud that has occurred.
4. If you are at higher risk of fraud, Experian can add protective Cifas registration to your credit report which can help prevent credit being taken in your name. The Cifas Protective Registration service places a flag alongside your name and personal details in the National Fraud Database. Companies and organisations who are signed up as members of the database will see you’re at risk and take extra steps to protect you.
If you have any questions regarding this service, then please contact Experian’s Customer Support Centre on 03444 818182*. They are open Monday to Friday, 8am to 8pm and Saturday, 9am to 5pm.
Your free ProtectMyID membership
To help you to monitor your personal information for certain signs of potential identity theft, we are offering you a free 12 month membership to Experian ProtectMyID. This service helps detect possible misuse of your personal data and provides you with identity monitoring support, focussed on the identification and resolution of identity theft.
Activating your free ProtectMyID membership
1. Ensure that you sign up for the service by 12 December 2018. Your code expires after this date.
2. Visit the ProtectMyID website to get started.
3. Click on ‘Join ProtectMyID’ (top right-hand side).
4. Enter your details along with the following activation code: XXXXXXXX
This code is unique to you and only available in this email – please keep this email for reference.
Once your membership is activated, you’ll have access to the following features:
1. Unlimited access to your Experian Credit Report.
2. Credit Alerting – an email or text to let you know when certain changes happen on your Experian Credit Report, such as the addition of a new credit search.
3. Access to an Identity Theft Resolution service if you do become a victim of fraud, where you’ll have a dedicated case worker who will support you in resolving fraud that has occurred.
4. If you are at higher risk of fraud, Experian can add protective Cifas registration to your credit report which can help prevent credit being taken in your name. The Cifas Protective Registration service places a flag alongside your name and personal details in the National Fraud Database. Companies and organisations who are signed up as members of the database will see you’re at risk and take extra steps to protect you.
If you have any questions regarding this service, then please contact Experian’s Customer Support Centre on 03444 818182*. They are open Monday to Friday, 8am to 8pm and Saturday, 9am to 5pm.
BA Investigating Theft of Personal and Financial Data
Jan 24, 2019, 6:37 am
#1681
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Helsinki
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 143
I've had several fraudulent transactions on my Visa debit card (Halifax) earlier this week, rang to cancel the card and inform them. Refunded for them (Just eat and EE top up) and they told me there were two other transactions that had been refused.
Jan 27, 2019, 7:40 am
#1682
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, VS Silver, Alitalia Freccia Alta, Starwood Gold, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum
Posts: 408
Another data point - They hit me on New Year's Day just after midnight also, similarly to another poster, and tried to charge something like 40 GETT transactions. Amex only reacted after the 10th.
I had received a SafeKey code the previous day, and called Amex whose agent had advised me that it was probably a SafeKey issue and not to worry, that they couldn't see any declined charges.
The general "Don't worry, we're monitoring your account constantly" advice rings somewhat hollow now.
I had received a SafeKey code the previous day, and called Amex whose agent had advised me that it was probably a SafeKey issue and not to worry, that they couldn't see any declined charges.
The general "Don't worry, we're monitoring your account constantly" advice rings somewhat hollow now.
Jun 22, 2019, 3:51 pm
#1684
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
Well, I was affected on my AMEX card. Didn't sign up to the group action as felt uncomfortable, didn't replace my card as American Express told me not to. And... Got hit today, 3 small transactions all in London, alerted by the 3rd.
No proof of course was the BA breach, but all other cards secure. Cest la vie I guess....
No proof of course was the BA breach, but all other cards secure. Cest la vie I guess....
Jun 25, 2019, 4:16 pm
#1685
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 3,807
Well of course it's up to the individual customer, but I am most surprised that not everyone had their cards replaced by this point.
After all, it has constantly been reported - on this thread too - that the stolen data are indeed being used by criminals, and that it happens again and again with no reason to believe the abuse of the stolen data will stop anytime soon. I just don't see the point of waiting until they hit your card (possibly at an awkward moment), instead of having the card replaced when not on the road...
I think credit card companies don't care much here, because no PINs were stolen, so there is no financial risk for them - they will just charge back any fraudlent transactions. But customers will have to live with the risk of their credit card being suspended due to misuse by criminals at any time...
After all, it has constantly been reported - on this thread too - that the stolen data are indeed being used by criminals, and that it happens again and again with no reason to believe the abuse of the stolen data will stop anytime soon. I just don't see the point of waiting until they hit your card (possibly at an awkward moment), instead of having the card replaced when not on the road...
I think credit card companies don't care much here, because no PINs were stolen, so there is no financial risk for them - they will just charge back any fraudlent transactions. But customers will have to live with the risk of their credit card being suspended due to misuse by criminals at any time...
Jun 25, 2019, 5:40 pm
#1687
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: London Stratford, E7
Programs: BAEC Gold! Thanks to FT
Posts: 3,381
Well of course it's up to the individual customer, but I am most surprised that not everyone had their cards replaced by this point.
After all, it has constantly been reported - on this thread too - that the stolen data are indeed being used by criminals, and that it happens again and again with no reason to believe the abuse of the stolen data will stop anytime soon. I just don't see the point of waiting until they hit your card (possibly at an awkward moment), instead of having the card replaced when not on the road...
I think credit card companies don't care much here, because no PINs were stolen, so there is no financial risk for them - they will just charge back any fraudlent transactions. But customers will have to live with the risk of their credit card being suspended due to misuse by criminals at any time...
After all, it has constantly been reported - on this thread too - that the stolen data are indeed being used by criminals, and that it happens again and again with no reason to believe the abuse of the stolen data will stop anytime soon. I just don't see the point of waiting until they hit your card (possibly at an awkward moment), instead of having the card replaced when not on the road...
I think credit card companies don't care much here, because no PINs were stolen, so there is no financial risk for them - they will just charge back any fraudlent transactions. But customers will have to live with the risk of their credit card being suspended due to misuse by criminals at any time...
On 30 Dec I used the second card for brunch in East London, a cashpoint withdrawal in Stratford, a contactless transaction for a coffee at cafe Nero at Heathrow Central Bus Station and contactless for the Hotel Hoppa to Heathrow Crown Plaza. On arrival I offered the card for a swipe for extras at the CP and the receptionist swiped the card on the side of her computer, she said it hadn’t gone through so tried to use the PIN terminal and this was declined. I was a bit concerned but offered another card and when I got to my room I had a text from my bank asking me to call them. I did and they said due to the card swipe at the Crown Plaza and pin attempt was not compatible with the card usage as the swipe was a ‘remote’ transaction but using the card. As it was a BA flagged card I had to take ID to a local branch with the card for the, to unblock it and there was no budging on that.
I asked the hotel what differences there were in swiping as to using the terminal and explained why. The receptionist was unsure and called the guest relations manager. She was mortified and asked what I wanted from them. I had a plus ticket so was able to push my flight back a few hours on 31 Dec enough time for me to head to Uxbridge the following day with ID so I said I didn’t want anything. I enjoyed the reception in the lounge and had room service dinner and shortly after the guest relations manager sent up a bottle of the nice Sancerre wine that I’d enjoyed a couple of glasses of in the lounge along with a couple of gin and tonics. When checking out the hotel manager was very apologetic and would find out the differences in the 2 mechanisms and get back to me.
They had cancelled my room service charge and breakfast charge for which I said was not necessary but they had already done it and I noticed a few days later I had a considerable amount of points credited my account.
I took the hoppa back to Heathrow, checked in for my flight and then headed to the bus station to jump on the bus to Uxbridge. After confirming my identity and card still in my possession it was unblocked and I went back to Heathrow and on entering the First Wing I got a red beep at the eligibility check and was asked to go back to the check in desk. I’d received an opup and went through to GF. I was going to give the room service/breakfast money to charity and though Flying start but I forgot to visit a cashpoint at T5 so I thought I’d do it on the way back. I did however give £30 to a guy sleeping rough in Newcastle that I saw on my way out for the NY festivities. He was surprised and made up.
The hotel did come back to me and said their merchant wouldn’t explain the differences specifically but had given the hotel guidance on card transactions. I was assured that the front of house teams had been briefed on the differences and this wouldn’t happen again and was thanked for being reasonable. Still got the card but it expires in August so I suspect I’ll get a new one soon but not had any problems though don’t keep hardly any money available there and transfer it when I need it.
Jun 26, 2019, 12:16 am
#1688
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Jun 26, 2019, 12:52 am
#1689
Join Date: Jan 2013
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My card info was breached and I received all the apology emails from BA.
Amex's "don't worry, we're monitoring your card" gave me no warm and fuzzy feelings so I had my card reissued as a precaution as soon as it was 'convenient' to do so (i.e. while I wasn't travelling or needing to make any urgent large purchases). I recommend anyone who was affected by this who still holds the same card to do the same, regardless of what your bank tells you.
Amex's "don't worry, we're monitoring your card" gave me no warm and fuzzy feelings so I had my card reissued as a precaution as soon as it was 'convenient' to do so (i.e. while I wasn't travelling or needing to make any urgent large purchases). I recommend anyone who was affected by this who still holds the same card to do the same, regardless of what your bank tells you.
Jun 26, 2019, 3:30 am
#1690
Join Date: Oct 2006
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My card info was breached and I received all the apology emails from BA.
Amex's "don't worry, we're monitoring your card" gave me no warm and fuzzy feelings so I had my card reissued as a precaution as soon as it was 'convenient' to do so (i.e. while I wasn't travelling or needing to make any urgent large purchases). I recommend anyone who was affected by this who still holds the same card to do the same, regardless of what your bank tells you.
Amex's "don't worry, we're monitoring your card" gave me no warm and fuzzy feelings so I had my card reissued as a precaution as soon as it was 'convenient' to do so (i.e. while I wasn't travelling or needing to make any urgent large purchases). I recommend anyone who was affected by this who still holds the same card to do the same, regardless of what your bank tells you.
Does anyone have a tl:dr version of what the situation is with the group claims. I was previously anti-jumping on the bandwagon. But I was fobbed off by BA, unable to use their poorly implemented 'free additional card protection', and then finally a victim of card fraud which I can only put down to the BA Data Breach. So i'm reconsidering. I still get Targetted Facebook Advertising, so I assume they are still open to new claimants?
Oct 8, 2019, 4:31 am
#1692
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Note to anyone who was affected by this - my BA Amex just had an attempt for Paypal fraud. Interestingly this was just as my ProtectMyID free year expired so anyone who has not yet changed their affected card number should probably keep an eye on transactions for the next month or so. Amex caught it, refused the transaction and emailed me about it, rang up and have a new card and # coming through now so all good
Oct 8, 2019, 4:53 am
#1693
Join Date: May 2006
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Note to anyone who was affected by this - my BA Amex just had an attempt for Paypal fraud. Interestingly this was just as my ProtectMyID free year expired so anyone who has not yet changed their affected card number should probably keep an eye on transactions for the next month or so. Amex caught it, refused the transaction and emailed me about it, rang up and have a new card and # coming through now so all good
Oct 8, 2019, 11:42 am
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It was a Tesco Mastercard, which I have never used on ba.com, and which I have hardly used at all for the last three or four years. That one single transaction that I did make was a small contactless payment, which was done as much as anything to keep the card account alive.
So you never know where your card details might have been taken from, even if you know that you don't use your card anywhere but ba.com.
Oct 8, 2019, 11:48 am
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A few weeks back I got a message from one of my credit card companies asking me to call, followed by calls to me to follow up. When I got back to them, they asked if I'd made X, Y and Z transactions. I hadn't; I was able to tell them the last transaction that I'd made on the card, and I didn't recognise any of the ones they were asking me about. So it was new card / new number time.
It was a Tesco Mastercard, which I have never used on ba.com, and which I have hardly used at all for the last three or four years. That one single transaction that I did make was a small contactless payment, which was done as much as anything to keep the card account alive.
So you never know where your card details might have been taken from, even if you know that you don't use your card anywhere but ba.com.
It was a Tesco Mastercard, which I have never used on ba.com, and which I have hardly used at all for the last three or four years. That one single transaction that I did make was a small contactless payment, which was done as much as anything to keep the card account alive.
So you never know where your card details might have been taken from, even if you know that you don't use your card anywhere but ba.com.