Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
===
October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Jun 28, 2017, 8:04 am
#1141
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LHR - KRK
Doing Krakow next month (26th July 16.55 outbound / 29th July 20.20 inbound).
Can anyone clarify if KRK sits within the 'long' or 'medium' distance band of CE flights?
Can anyone clarify if KRK sits within the 'long' or 'medium' distance band of CE flights?
Jun 28, 2017, 8:18 am
#1142
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Jun 28, 2017, 8:49 am
#1143
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Jun 28, 2017, 8:52 am
#1144
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KRK is one of the "winners"
Its long
Still no BA lounge access in KRK for your return though
Its long
Still no BA lounge access in KRK for your return though
Jun 28, 2017, 8:55 am
#1145
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Jun 28, 2017, 9:00 am
#1146
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may 1st 2015 the route started
anyway that's for another thread not this one which is for CE catering
anyway that's for another thread not this one which is for CE catering
Jun 28, 2017, 9:41 am
#1147
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Jun 28, 2017, 9:45 am
#1148
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Jun 29, 2017, 1:00 pm
#1149
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Unless of course you are on the Finnair A350!
Jun 29, 2017, 2:56 pm
#1150
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Why is it that the new service routine takes so long? Especially on the long routes. What could be done to speed up delivery?
Jun 29, 2017, 5:38 pm
#1151
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The separate starter and main service means they have to serve each passenger twice, rather than once. Clearly one "tray drop" per passenger would be a faster option.
Saying that, the only Long CE that I've done since the changes was ATH on a 767 and a 777, on which the meal service was completed with plenty of time to spare.
Jun 30, 2017, 12:36 am
#1152
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Right. Now I've waded through enough of this scintillating thread and have now tried several times this quite major change to the catering changed.
Frankly, I don't know how much food some people here need. Yesterday, I flew to VCE and had the new mid-band meal. I had the Salmon Salad and HI had the Croque Monsieur. We found both to be delicious and quite filling. Coming back from TLL he had the Beef Cheeks and I had the Chicken Curry. I am not fond of beetroot but the goat's cheese made such a difference that I am going to do a version of this at home. I love the way that the wine is served and BAGoldboy Darling even with 8 rows of Club they ran out of nothing.
All in all I think that the catering is an improvement on what they served before and there is plenty of it on both bands. Given that this service is much more complex to deliver than those hot pots slopped onto freezing plates, I just can't see them doing it on anything under 2 hours with the sort of Club loads that I have seen. So clearly from my own first hand viewing, far from abandoning Club, people are filling it. So much for everyone leaving BA as well. People here might but clearly they are not representative of what is actually going on.
These changes were long overdue and i for one am far from unhappy with what has been put in front of me.
Frankly, I don't know how much food some people here need. Yesterday, I flew to VCE and had the new mid-band meal. I had the Salmon Salad and HI had the Croque Monsieur. We found both to be delicious and quite filling. Coming back from TLL he had the Beef Cheeks and I had the Chicken Curry. I am not fond of beetroot but the goat's cheese made such a difference that I am going to do a version of this at home. I love the way that the wine is served and BAGoldboy Darling even with 8 rows of Club they ran out of nothing.
All in all I think that the catering is an improvement on what they served before and there is plenty of it on both bands. Given that this service is much more complex to deliver than those hot pots slopped onto freezing plates, I just can't see them doing it on anything under 2 hours with the sort of Club loads that I have seen. So clearly from my own first hand viewing, far from abandoning Club, people are filling it. So much for everyone leaving BA as well. People here might but clearly they are not representative of what is actually going on.
These changes were long overdue and i for one am far from unhappy with what has been put in front of me.
Jun 30, 2017, 3:37 am
#1153
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Ba2706 - lgw>bcn
I have booked a trip to BCN, with a flight from LGW>BCN in CE as a part of a birthday treat for my wife.
I understand that this is a "medium" length flight which means we receive the Hot English breakfast.
Is it possible to get Bucks Fizz served or champagne served on this flight with breakfast, or is it a case that as an early morning flight a full bar won't be loaded?
Thanks
I understand that this is a "medium" length flight which means we receive the Hot English breakfast.
Is it possible to get Bucks Fizz served or champagne served on this flight with breakfast, or is it a case that as an early morning flight a full bar won't be loaded?
Thanks
Last edited by willmoac; Jun 30, 2017 at 3:39 am Reason: corrections
Jun 30, 2017, 3:41 am
#1154
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I have booked a trip to BCN, with a flight from LGW>BCN in CE as a part of a birthday treat for my wife.
I understand that this is a "medium" length flight which means we receive the Hot English breakfast.
Is it possible to get Bucks Fizz served or champagne served on this flight with breakfast, or is it a case that as an early morning flight a full bar won't be loaded?
Thanks
I understand that this is a "medium" length flight which means we receive the Hot English breakfast.
Is it possible to get Bucks Fizz served or champagne served on this flight with breakfast, or is it a case that as an early morning flight a full bar won't be loaded?
Thanks
Jul 1, 2017, 1:33 am
#1155
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