Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 30, 2017, 3:37 pm
#481
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 712
Why can't they serve an all-in-one hot entree on the "medium" routes with a pudding + bread plate.
They manage it at breakfast??
They manage it at breakfast??
Mar 30, 2017, 4:00 pm
#482
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Blue, IC Spire Ambassador
Posts: 5,228
TXL-LHR, 16:45 dep
Took the Ploughman's "Salad" (why it isn't a Ploughman's *Lunch* I don't know - it certainly would be more suitable in that time slot).
It was actually pretty tasty, if a bit limited. What it was not, however, was a dinner-time meal, but BA decree no one wants dinner before 5pm and that's a whole different story.
Can see BA fielding some awkward dry cleaning claims for piccalli and Branston pickle stains, though!
The alternative was a wholly derisory 2 and a half fingers of sandwich.
I realise TXL is only 90 mins or so in the air (though frequently more like 120 with LHR holds) and is a shorter former band 3, but even for this length of flight the offering felt derisory. Can totally understand why longer band 3 regulars are so angry at this change.
Took the Ploughman's "Salad" (why it isn't a Ploughman's *Lunch* I don't know - it certainly would be more suitable in that time slot).
It was actually pretty tasty, if a bit limited. What it was not, however, was a dinner-time meal, but BA decree no one wants dinner before 5pm and that's a whole different story.
Can see BA fielding some awkward dry cleaning claims for piccalli and Branston pickle stains, though!
The alternative was a wholly derisory 2 and a half fingers of sandwich.
I realise TXL is only 90 mins or so in the air (though frequently more like 120 with LHR holds) and is a shorter former band 3, but even for this length of flight the offering felt derisory. Can totally understand why longer band 3 regulars are so angry at this change.
Mar 30, 2017, 4:05 pm
#483
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
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Posts: 26,871
Here's the thing. I have shown this meal to my German wife and my German employee and both thought the whole concept disgusting (it was served on a TXL remember).
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
Mar 30, 2017, 4:10 pm
#484
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,252
Here's the thing. I have shown this meal to my German wife and my German employee and both thought the whole concept disgusting (it was served on a TXL remember).
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
Mar 30, 2017, 4:12 pm
#485
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,921
I would love if LH served currywurst in their shorthaul business cabin.
I am trying to remember what they do serve.
I remember KLM served a cold Panini on KRK-AMS and served a wrap on AMS - GLA in their Business cabin
I am trying to remember what they do serve.
I remember KLM served a cold Panini on KRK-AMS and served a wrap on AMS - GLA in their Business cabin
Mar 30, 2017, 4:23 pm
#486
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,811
Mar 30, 2017, 4:48 pm
#487
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,099
Here's the thing. I have shown this meal to my German wife and my German employee and both thought the whole concept disgusting (it was served on a TXL remember).
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
I'm pretty sure Lufthansa is not serving weisswurst in curry sauce on its Heathrow flights.
Does anyone eat scotch eggs outside the UK? Or indeed outside a few grotty pubs in the North?
NB - nothing against grotty pubs in the north, I spent my childhood in them, but still ....
Mar 30, 2017, 5:01 pm
#488
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Mucci de la Cuisine Aérienne du Réseau Courte Durée de British Airways
Posts: 4,704
The ploughman's is very popular.
Mar 30, 2017, 5:15 pm
#489
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,536
Mar 30, 2017, 5:42 pm
#490
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: OSL
Posts: 2,646
The 'egg' is incased in sausage filling, rolled in egg and breadcrumbs then deep fried. It is nothing short of revolting. My guess, if you grew up with it it would be okay. I say this as someone who's spent half their life in the uk and would not touch it with a barge pole.
Mar 30, 2017, 6:26 pm
#491
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,921
scotch egg is great!
Mar 30, 2017, 8:47 pm
#492
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Spire Elite Ambassador, HH Diamond, Avis President’s Club
Posts: 357
I thought I would wait until I experienced myself but this is terrible. My PSA-LHR I had half of a cheese and tomato warmed soggy "ciabatta". I was offered more bread to go with it. The crew later came and gave the other half, noticing her mistake but everyone refused their missing half. I would upload pics but it's been shared many times on here before.
this is not a premium service or a premium cabin. The M&S £4.95 sandwich is much much nicer and less than £5.
Bottom line is that I've now been convinced to go back to exit row on euro traveller. There really is no point in Club Europe anymore
this is not a premium service or a premium cabin. The M&S £4.95 sandwich is much much nicer and less than £5.
Bottom line is that I've now been convinced to go back to exit row on euro traveller. There really is no point in Club Europe anymore
Mar 30, 2017, 11:20 pm
#493
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,099
The 'egg' is incased in sausage filling, rolled in egg and breadcrumbs then deep fried. It is nothing short of revolting. My guess, if you grew up with it it would be okay. I say this as someone who's spent half their life in the uk and would not touch it with a barge pole.
On the other side, I can't eat Haggish... and neither "trippa"
Mar 31, 2017, 12:20 am
#494
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Edinburgh UK
Programs: BA Silver, HHonours Gold, Mucci of Pucci, Oyster Card, Nectar Card, Father's Day Card
Posts: 9,372
Mar 31, 2017, 12:32 am
#495
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: BA GGL, A3*G, Mucci de l'expertise des Apps
Posts: 3,366
BA are going to get the A320s up to 180 and the A321 up to 218 seats. Got to cram everything in somewhere (particularly important as everything is return catered now)