Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 27, 2017, 3:17 am
#286
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For such a short flight that offering certainly looks decent...apart from the strange red jaggered shape above the mushrooms? I am definitely in favour of these changes as it's the first time in many many moons that a full English is up for grabs on a NCL service, and being elevated to the dizzy heights of catering status enjoyed by the EDI/GLA/ABZ/INV services. Unlucky MAN/LBA 
Mar 27, 2017, 3:28 am
#287
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Clearly, there are winners and losers. I happen to think that there are certainly some borderline routes that should not have been made into medium as I said. Once I have tasted these delights for myself, I will make up my own mind. Telling me about the gastronomic delights of UK, Aegean, or whatever is most elightening but fat lot of use to me flying to Nice non-stop, or ALC for that matter. Who among the legacy competes? No one.
Frankly I thought that they might try and kill CE a la Aer Lingus and this is clearly not the case. Frankly, they play with this product as they should with fire. From its inception, the only difference with ET was what was served on board - other than that, it was economy seating 3x3. At the outset, they did not even have Champagne. After flying a lot of Domestic services on AA, frankly the food and drink was dreadful. 'Bubbles' were three small bottles of Prosecco per cabin tipped into tumblers, the best of the meals was a Cheese Lasagne and the nadir was a Chicken Pot Pie which was no more a pie than a bit of vol-au-vent tipped on a rather tasteless dried out lump of a very dead chicken. Thanks but this sounds better.
Mar 27, 2017, 3:34 am
#288
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"Cheap old sarnie"? That is just an assumption on your part as none of us have tried it yet, and you won't be trying it at all as according to you, you have switched to Star and thus are spared "cheap old" anything.
When the changes do come in and we know what these mean in fact rather than BA's hype, and speculation here.
When the changes do come in and we know what these mean in fact rather than BA's hype, and speculation here.
Mar 27, 2017, 3:45 am
#289
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JER to LGW. Short band brunch, 10.00 hrs departure.
Mar 27, 2017, 3:48 am
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Rant over - is too early for a Bombay & Slim?
Mar 27, 2017, 3:51 am
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Mar 27, 2017, 3:54 am
#292
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So now I do have a complaint.
Why is it both in my recent experience and in every photo here is BRITISH Airways serving President FRENCH butter? Is there not enough British Butter that costs a good deal less? They might save enough to buy a couple of scones.
Why is it both in my recent experience and in every photo here is BRITISH Airways serving President FRENCH butter? Is there not enough British Butter that costs a good deal less? They might save enough to buy a couple of scones.
Mar 27, 2017, 3:55 am
#293
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Mar 27, 2017, 3:58 am
#294
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Wish I hadn't seen the newspaper. The song is now stuck in my head.
Mar 27, 2017, 4:02 am
#295
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Mar 27, 2017, 4:05 am
#296
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And some of those flights are to high yield destinations where the competition is either non existent (NCE) or IAG (BCN, MAD) so one can assume BA are going to be raking it in by continuing to screw their customers.
Mar 27, 2017, 4:06 am
#297
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My main issue based on the pictures is the size of the plate on the smaller tray, and why they've priorised a bread plate, which is most unnecessary, particularly if you chose the massive filled loaf. When the tray is this small, you can't afford for it to present empty plates for bread.
Mar 27, 2017, 4:38 am
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Mar 27, 2017, 5:00 am
#299
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I was looking forward to a LHR - CPH flight next weekend to sample the new offering. I enjoyed the hot meal that I got on that route. Now I've read this thread, looks like I'll end up with some Panini with minimal filling or a mini salad.
Great improvement, BA! Well done...... *slow hand clap*
Great improvement, BA! Well done...... *slow hand clap*
Mar 27, 2017, 5:07 am
#300
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The sandwich looks like a decent hot sandwich, though unfortunately all the ones I have seen so far have been cheese-and-something. It's going to be monotonous if anyone who doesn't (or can't) eat a pile of melted cheese is going to be denied the hot option every time. MInd you, I'm sure the cheese will be very popular with quite a few customers - it's a bit of a Marmite situation.
FAO BA Caterers: it *is* possible to make a hot sandwich without cheese even if the average panini-serving coffee bar makes it seem otherwise. Rotating your menu around the major food intolerances (and dislikes) is part of good menu planning.
Président butter is nicer than almost every English butter; certainly it's about the nicest butter I have ever seen in a catering single-serve pack.
FAO BA Caterers: it *is* possible to make a hot sandwich without cheese even if the average panini-serving coffee bar makes it seem otherwise. Rotating your menu around the major food intolerances (and dislikes) is part of good menu planning.
Président butter is nicer than almost every English butter; certainly it's about the nicest butter I have ever seen in a catering single-serve pack.