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This thread focuses on experiences and reactions for the implementation of buy on board for shorthaul, mainly led by impressions taken from flying on board British Airways' shorthaul services.
An information thread exists for your questions, particularly if they are on factual matters, here:
Buy on board: Information guide for BA shorthaul economy services
If you have an opinion about the concept of Buy on Board, the right thread is:
Buy on board: Implemented on BA short haul - opinions on the concept
Photos of current BoB menu (September 2018) post #125 in information thread
An information thread exists for your questions, particularly if they are on factual matters, here:
Buy on board: Information guide for BA shorthaul economy services
If you have an opinion about the concept of Buy on Board, the right thread is:
Buy on board: Implemented on BA short haul - opinions on the concept
Photos of current BoB menu (September 2018) post #125 in information thread
Buy on board: Experiences and reactions from BA's shorthaul economy service
#496
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
What does it mean by paid deal? Does this mean BoB is coming to Long Haul? Or am I reading that wrongly?
#497
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Looks like BA is their biggest client in the Inflight Retail Services sector, depending on how much they do for SAA:
http://www.tourvest.co.za/operations.asp?subID=3
And they do have their fingers in many pies down in South Africa, and it looks like most tourists would have spent money at least one of their businesses during a visit - know I have!
http://www.tourvest.co.za/operations.asp?subID=3
And they do have their fingers in many pies down in South Africa, and it looks like most tourists would have spent money at least one of their businesses during a visit - know I have!
http://www.tourvestinflightretail.com
#500
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London
Programs: GGL/GFL
Posts: 1,032
#502
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 373
[QUOTE=studio76;27770118]This is just downright mean. What a nasty company BA has become.[/QUOTE
The taste of aircraft tank water. Mmm. Although I think customers would be wrong to assume a free glass of water would be mineral water. Scoop up from the nearest toilet almost.
The taste of aircraft tank water. Mmm. Although I think customers would be wrong to assume a free glass of water would be mineral water. Scoop up from the nearest toilet almost.
#503
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
The whole campaign certainly doesn't make me feel better about M&S. But, for BA, it is simply a shameful display. When I fly, I want to have some confidence that somewhere there are some smart minds running the show. That doesn't match my experiences lately.
This hasn't been a brand-builder for M&S, though. Honestly, it just gives me M&S fatigue and seems to remind us that they, too, are out of touch with their customers.
This hasn't been a brand-builder for M&S, though. Honestly, it just gives me M&S fatigue and seems to remind us that they, too, are out of touch with their customers.
Amidst all I've read to date about the whole subject of BoB and its hapless implementation, this succinct comment by Nicksta - perhaps more than any other - really did strike a chord with me.
When thinking of organisations where you would want total confidence that that there are competent people 'running the show' .... then your booked airline would indeed be a definite example. Another one might be your domestic gas supplier.
Okay ....sure .... we're just talking about mere sandwiches & coffee here ; hardly matters of life & death. But ultimately it's also about corporate culture, and a relentless focus on high standards at all times - whether that involves the condition of the aircraft, its maintenance, the refuelling operation etc etc.
Each day we learn a little more about BoB - and today there has been much talk about what goes on behind the scenes - all of which is very interesting. And we now know stuff about the different suppliers and parties involved in the contract, and the various logistics & processes. There have been implications in some posts that parties other than BA might be to blame (in part, at least) for the many BoB failings as reported by FT-ers.
But here's the bottom line : there is only one organisation who must carry the can for the lack of satisfactory onboard service : British Airways. It was BA - and BA alone - who made the decision to introduce this policy change. Not DHL, not Tourvest, not M&S.
If I stay overnight at the Ritz, and next morning they cannot provide breakfast as advertised & agreed, then there will be little consolation in hearing copious explanations as to why things went wrong (the F&B manager forgot to order the food/the delivery driver didn't turn up/we didn't expect so many guests/our POS systems lack the functionality to add the breakfast cost to your bill etc etc .....).
I will consider the Ritz, and the Ritz alone, as being responsible - nobody else. I would however have genuine sympathy for the dining room staff if it's clear that they themselves have been let down by their own internal management.
#504
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
#505
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: Executive Club: Gold - Flying Blue: Gold
Posts: 1,382
BA to fly to Starve.
I am on a LHR-BRU on friday at 09:45. I will be buy a delicious breakfast panini (omelette and bacon) for €4.50 that I will eat on board while being entertained by this whole mess (I am sorry for the cabin crews however). BA won't see a penny nor avios from me on board.
#506
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 995
But here's the bottom line : there is only one organisation who must carry the can for the lack of satisfactory onboard service : British Airways. It was BA - and BA alone - who made the decision to introduce this policy change. Not DHL, not Tourvest, not M&S.
If I stay overnight at the Ritz, and next morning they cannot provide breakfast as advertised & agreed, then there will be little consolation in hearing copious explanations as to why things went wrong (the F&B manager forgot to order the food/the delivery driver didn't turn up/we didn't expect so many guests/our POS systems lack the functionality to add the breakfast cost to your bill etc etc .....).
I will consider the Ritz, and the Ritz alone, as being responsible - nobody else. I would however have genuine sympathy for the dining room staff if it's clear that they themselves have been let down by their own internal management.
If I stay overnight at the Ritz, and next morning they cannot provide breakfast as advertised & agreed, then there will be little consolation in hearing copious explanations as to why things went wrong (the F&B manager forgot to order the food/the delivery driver didn't turn up/we didn't expect so many guests/our POS systems lack the functionality to add the breakfast cost to your bill etc etc .....).
I will consider the Ritz, and the Ritz alone, as being responsible - nobody else. I would however have genuine sympathy for the dining room staff if it's clear that they themselves have been let down by their own internal management.
#507
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: Executive Club: Gold - Flying Blue: Gold
Posts: 1,382
It is prevelant as Alex Cruz said cost cutting is a mindset. If you don't find a way to cut cots every day, you failed your job. That's why we have seen all these cuts last year.
#508
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: Executive Club: Gold - Flying Blue: Gold
Posts: 1,382
In the meantime another CE passenger gets the hit and tweets:
@British_Airways Club Europe under-catered yet again means no food for me! I don't know why I even bother... #servicefail
@British_Airways Club Europe under-catered yet again means no food for me! I don't know why I even bother... #servicefail
#509
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: Executive Club: Gold - Flying Blue: Gold
Posts: 1,382
And another flight without ET catering (twitter message). This time it is RAK-LGW (almost 4h flight):
@British_Airways when we landed at Marrakech an announcement was made saying BA flight to London had no food left and if everyone can buy
@British_Airways when we landed at Marrakech an announcement was made saying BA flight to London had no food left and if everyone can buy