Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Dec 14, 2016, 8:34 am
#511
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You'll probably have more flight options, too - AC flies LHR-YYZ 5x daily, I believe, as opposed to BA who flies 2x daily. Not sure what your final destination is, though.
Dec 14, 2016, 8:56 am
#512
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Unfortunately for BA, the BBC headline stating "BA cabin crew vote to strike" is sufficiently broad to deter the uninformed "joe public" from parting with their cash.
Dec 14, 2016, 8:59 am
#513
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We knew this, as they have to give at least 7 days notice. It doesn't mean that's when a strike will occur.
The first week of January will be more effective when people are trying to get back to work. Christmas wont affect as many people (many will have travelled before then) and also it will make the union look bad - ruining Christmas plans for the public.
February half term is the other obvious target to cause most effect.
As with previous strikes, long haul will be protected first.
The first week of January will be more effective when people are trying to get back to work. Christmas wont affect as many people (many will have travelled before then) and also it will make the union look bad - ruining Christmas plans for the public.
February half term is the other obvious target to cause most effect.
As with previous strikes, long haul will be protected first.
Dec 14, 2016, 9:07 am
#516
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New enhancement 'bring your own crew'
Hi,
With the looming new enhancement of 'bring your own crew' what options do you have with booked tickets which are not flexible? I assume you have to wait till the exact strike date is announced and then ...
Cheers
With the looming new enhancement of 'bring your own crew' what options do you have with booked tickets which are not flexible? I assume you have to wait till the exact strike date is announced and then ...
Cheers
Dec 14, 2016, 9:31 am
#522
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In the Grauniad's write-up, it's suggested that a pay offer of 2% was rejected, whereas the BA spiel states that their offer "would lead to basic pay and hourly duty rates increasing by a minimum of 7%."
Something's not adding up somewhere.
Something's not adding up somewhere.
Dec 14, 2016, 9:48 am
#523
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Location: Near Edinburgh
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My bold on a quote from a BA spokesman, I guess we'd all love to know who BA consider to be their competitors nowadays!
We have proposed a fair and reasonable pay increase to Mixed Fleet cabin crew which is in line with that accepted by other British Airways colleagues and which will ensure their reward levels remain in line with cabin crew at our airline competitors.
We have proposed a fair and reasonable pay increase to Mixed Fleet cabin crew which is in line with that accepted by other British Airways colleagues and which will ensure their reward levels remain in line with cabin crew at our airline competitors.
Dec 14, 2016, 9:54 am
#525
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That is because the Union Officials get FULL PAY no matter what !
