Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Dec 14, 2016, 10:22 pm
#601
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Taking on board the comment that the current MF arrangements aren't a clear guide here, you will find the current MF rota via the Wiki link above, visible on FT's full site.
Dec 14, 2016, 10:35 pm
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Dec 14, 2016, 10:39 pm
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I think you may need to take a deep breath and stop panicking. I'm sure your flight will be fine. Maybe also have a quick look at why the crew are threatening to strike while you're at it
Dec 14, 2016, 10:57 pm
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MF accounts for less than 30% of BA cabin crew. 40% of MF who are members of UNITE didn't vote in the ballot. A significant proportion of MF are not even UNITE members.
I think BA will 'tough this one out'. If they can't get an injunction to stop a strike I think it will probably happen.
I think BA will 'tough this one out'. If they can't get an injunction to stop a strike I think it will probably happen.
Dec 14, 2016, 11:26 pm
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I would accept a pay deal that brings us in line with the pay scales offered by other U.K. operators, ideally with other airlines operating from LHR which takes into account the costs of being within the M25, but I would consider a pay deal that at least was in line with other British airlines. I think that's similar to many people I've spoken to as well.
Of course, that is easier said than done, but the only reason I can see that the MF crew do not do make this move is purely because these other airlines are not currently recruiting, and hence market forces are at play? Too many people looking for too few jobs, hence pay goes down.
Maybe I am over simplifying things.
Anyway, best of luck with the fight. As a customer of BA, I can see exactly why the MF crew have decided to make their views heard. My last longhaul is in January (potentially to be affected), and after that everything is on other (better) carriers.
Dec 14, 2016, 11:38 pm
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You are not going to find the answers you understandably seek quite yet, I'm afraid - there are simply too many unknowns, and indeed it could be very fluid up to the day if BA doesn't know who will turn up for work and who won't.
Dec 15, 2016, 12:36 am
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Supporting MF
I am flying BA next week
I would like to wear a "I support Mixed Fleet" or "I(heart)MF" type badge when travelling
Any idea where I can get one ?
The MF staff on my MIA flights last week were so good that I wrote a thank you note both ways
The amazing staff are the last reason I still fly with BA
I want to show support in some way
I would like to wear a "I support Mixed Fleet" or "I(heart)MF" type badge when travelling
Any idea where I can get one ?
The MF staff on my MIA flights last week were so good that I wrote a thank you note both ways
The amazing staff are the last reason I still fly with BA
I want to show support in some way
Dec 15, 2016, 12:58 am
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I fully agree with this. I am in exactly the same position, last LH BA metal flight (AA booked) in January and then for the rest of 2017 on better carriers.
Dec 15, 2016, 1:08 am
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