Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Dec 14, 2016, 7:06 am
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Dec 14, 2016, 7:24 am
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Only MF non CSMs were eligible to vote not all cabin crew. The turn out is nowhere near as low as you think it is. What is more important is that only 1200 or so voted to strike. With nearly 15000 cabin crew BA will not be concerned at this.
For the other crew, the legacy crew this is a boon. BA will see that having 3 separate and distinct cabin groupings means that no single group of crew can hold them to ransom. WW and EF were just given a life extension by their less well remunerated colleagues.
As to the efficacy of a MF strike, I have grave doubts. BA will be bothered but they have the resources and the will to starve the strike out. After all what resources in terms of savings can those living on such low wages have? Most MF will simply not be able to afford the loss of salary a prolonged strike would require.
I sympathise greatly with my MF colleagues but I suspect this protest vote will not lead to anything like successful industrial action.
For the other crew, the legacy crew this is a boon. BA will see that having 3 separate and distinct cabin groupings means that no single group of crew can hold them to ransom. WW and EF were just given a life extension by their less well remunerated colleagues.
As to the efficacy of a MF strike, I have grave doubts. BA will be bothered but they have the resources and the will to starve the strike out. After all what resources in terms of savings can those living on such low wages have? Most MF will simply not be able to afford the loss of salary a prolonged strike would require.
I sympathise greatly with my MF colleagues but I suspect this protest vote will not lead to anything like successful industrial action.
Last edited by Waterhorse; Dec 14, 2016 at 7:47 am
Dec 14, 2016, 7:27 am
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Dec 14, 2016, 7:30 am
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Do you think that BA might resume intakes into WW and EF to keep these fleets going?
Dec 14, 2016, 7:33 am
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BA crew vote to strike over pay: http://bbc.in/2htbkWf
Dec 14, 2016, 7:34 am
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Dec 14, 2016, 7:36 am
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Is there any source for a strike being announced? Or details of any such strike?
The BBC News article only says that the vote has been in favour of strike action - but we already knew that from about half an hour ago on the main thread: MF to be balloted on strike action?
The BBC News article only says that the vote has been in favour of strike action - but we already knew that from about half an hour ago on the main thread: MF to be balloted on strike action?
Dec 14, 2016, 7:36 am
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A very brief report on BBC website. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38319538
Edit: No need to wait for Godot. S/he's a faster poster.
Edit: No need to wait for Godot. S/he's a faster poster.
Dec 14, 2016, 7:37 am
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This is going to be a major pain in the back and will undoubtedly affect my travel, but for the record, as far as I am concerned, they are absolutely right.
Dec 14, 2016, 7:41 am
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Dec 14, 2016, 7:48 am
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Dec 14, 2016, 7:49 am
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BBC report "The dispute concerns about 4,000 staff who have joined the airline since 2010 on "Mixed Fleet" contracts, who do not feel they are paid enough."