Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Aug 2, 2017, 11:04 am
#3256
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Well tom139 if the exceptional team that you had last week supported their colleagues and went on strike they would get a quicker result, some crew are so short sighted/selfish.
Aug 2, 2017, 1:52 pm
#3259
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Thank-you very much for your continual support. Must be tough for you having to survive on your pay. Had you thought about joining half of the striking crew at the foodbank at Bedfont?
For the record, striking crew are indeed now in the majority.
Kind regards
BA.MF.CSM
Aug 2, 2017, 5:41 pm
#3260
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Just a thought may be the non striking MF crew are happy with their deal and are not so selfish as to wish to ruin the summer holidays of other working people some of whom like my daughter earn minimum wage.
Aug 2, 2017, 6:11 pm
#3261
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If BA is such a terrible employer and you think so lowly of your co-workers, why are you still with the company?
There's a wide world out there outside of BA....
Aug 2, 2017, 6:18 pm
#3262
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I believe that this is not OMNI/PR forum
Aug 2, 2017, 7:41 pm
#3263
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While I fully support the crew on strike and believe MF deserve a better deal, I also agree with this. Any individual crew member is entitled to their own view, and shouldn't feel bullied for it. There are plenty of valid reasons some may not want to strike, and these kind of attacks do no-one any favours, and I imagine create an even more unpleasant working environment for everyone.
Aug 2, 2017, 7:55 pm
#3264
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So the new period covers my travel and if that is extend it will cover another flight clearly it's not certain those flights will be cancelled but if they are I still fully support MF crew on this.
Aug 2, 2017, 9:06 pm
#3265
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So with all these flights operating with reduced crew, how long until Cruz starts to think that actually minimum crew is enough and that's the next thing to be 'enhanced'
Aug 2, 2017, 9:22 pm
#3266
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Aug 2, 2017, 11:00 pm
#3267
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My guess is that the union are extending the strike as they calculate that more crew will soon be hitting maximum hours and will need to be stood down. If so, it seems a sensible tactic, I hope it works for them.
It's clear from BA's initial response on staff travel that the airline were trying to penalise those that went on strike to deter future industrial action. It seems that BA are about to lose that battle if they haven't already.
Aug 3, 2017, 2:27 am
#3269
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If only there was someway us passengers could show support and at the same time give BA a bloody nose for all the enhancements dished out. Maybe we choose a day to not fly BA. With a little forward planning and a lot of social media coverage it could be done.
Aug 3, 2017, 3:17 am
#3270
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You would have be completely blinkered or a company mouthpiece not to see the effects/cost on the BA operation.