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Old Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.

*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.

Current strike period:
  • None

Next announced strike period:

    Previous strike periods:
    • 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
    • 10th & 11th January 2017
    • 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
    • 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
    • 17th-20th February 2017
    • 22nd-25th February 2017
    • 3rd-9th March 2017
    • 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
    • 1st-16th July 2017
    • 19th July-1st August 2017
    • 2nd-15th August 2017
    • 16th-30th August 2017

    Routes affected:
    As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).

    Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.

    Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew

    Background Details from BA:
    Strike 19th July-1st August
    2nd August-16th August

    Background Details from Unite:
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/

    Latest negotiating position:
    Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.

    Key upcoming dates:
    • Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.

    Ballot results for industrial action:
    • First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
    • Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
    • Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
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    Old Apr 6, 2017, 4:05 pm
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    Old Apr 6, 2017, 4:11 pm
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    Originally Posted by Flyingandserving
    In the next few months if I'm lucky I will keep my current job but will work for another company who will find a way to push all long serving staff out so they can backfill the positions with even worse contracts than we have now.
    Thanks very much for posting that here, and indeed for joining up with the BA forum and Flyertalk Flyingandserving. It certainly makes for grim reading and I very much hope your fears are not materialised. It must a worrying time for you and those close to you too.
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    Old Apr 6, 2017, 4:18 pm
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    BA management appear to be treating MF crew very badly indeed.
    The same BA management should learn from the excellent BA MF crew that flew swmbo and I lhr to aus on Tuesday 4th. Great crew and great service.
    Pity their management are so incompetent.
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    Old Apr 6, 2017, 4:40 pm
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    Guess I'll have to watch this thread now with YYZ a MF route and some May flights.
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    Old Apr 19, 2017, 2:38 am
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    Originally Posted by craigc
    Is there any indication of when the next strike may be - I realise we just had ballot and from announcing it must be +14 days?
    On that basis then, it looks like Unite will have to call another ballot as I haven't seen any dates for another strike..
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    Old Apr 19, 2017, 3:26 am
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    Will they re-ballot and try to strike Around the weekend 27th May does anyone think as that is half term in the UK
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    Old Apr 19, 2017, 5:34 am
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    General Election now called so politics as well as industrial issues will form part of any decision methinks.
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    Old May 31, 2017, 7:00 am
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    Does anyone with inside knowledge has an update on this? If I remember right, their strike mandate is still valid, so I'm wondering if there's any development on this?
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    Old May 31, 2017, 9:09 am
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    They have rejected BAs offer, I think that the next meeting is on the 9th June.
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    Old May 31, 2017, 9:14 am
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    They have rejected BAs offer, I think that the next meeting is on the 9th June.
    is it 1 weeks notice that is usually given before strike action?

    With BA management taking a very public bashing over the IT fiasco, could be a good time for staff negotiations!
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    Old May 31, 2017, 10:08 am
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    Originally Posted by stewaran
    is it 1 weeks notice that is usually given before strike action?

    With BA management taking a very public bashing over the IT fiasco, could be a good time for staff negotiations!
    2 weeks notice (change in legislation). Yes, after all the negative press, more bad news wouldn't be great for BA.

    Thanks for the update, going to Helsinki end of June.
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    Old May 31, 2017, 10:15 am
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    Anyone fancy joining them?

    https://jobs.ba.com/jobs/londonheathrowmixedfleet/
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    Old May 31, 2017, 10:15 am
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    Originally Posted by MrsBiggles
    2 weeks notice (change in legislation). Yes, after all the negative press, more bad news wouldn't be great for BA.

    Thanks for the update, going to Helsinki end of June.
    Thats good news, Im flying 16 and 17th so 1 week would have ruined my travel
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    Old May 31, 2017, 11:38 am
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    Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
    As London Heathrow Mixed Fleet Cabin Crew you will have the potential to earn, on average, a reward package of between 21,000 and 25,000 per annum. This comprises of a starting salary of 12,192 per annum, an hourly payment when you are flying, bonuses for achieving your performance targets and commission for Inflight Retail sales. Annual leave starting at 30 days per year rising to 34 days per year.
    I am not sure if I will apply as it would be important to me to know if I have the potential to earn 21k or 25k and how average I would be. Typical BA wording.

    I am only surprised that they did not word it as "the potential to earn, on average, a reward package of between 12,000 and 34,000 per annum."
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    Old May 31, 2017, 12:18 pm
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    Originally Posted by MrsBiggles
    Does anyone with inside knowledge has an update on this?
    Maybe waiting for JC to win the election and re-nationalise BA?
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